Hello intelligent beings!
I think about using only ruby to connect a client to an ActionCable channel. So that's without the client to send any request.
Logically that should be possible, because if ActionCable is broadcasting, it's only necessary for the server to have data about whom and how (IP) to send the message. And if a client connects to a channel using javascript, the algorithm taking place is only part of the backend in ActionCable.
I remember that establishing a connect to a channel using only the server side could have been possible with Faye.
So there is a possiblity to:
subscr_info = "{\"channel\":\"ChatChannel\", \"chat_id\":1}"
arc = ActionCable.server.remote_connections.where(current_user: user)
arc.disconnect(subscr_info);
but the "opposite" leads to a "NoMethodError":
arc.subscribe(subscr_info);
Solving the coordination without the client having to request for makes things easier for mobile device APIs. There is no peer to peer interaction anyway, so the channels are always on the server.
Does anyone know the porpper way how to do it?
Thanks for your advice / hint.
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I am new to this !
I am working for a chat application which requires text+ video chats.
I explored Socket.io initially and found it very handy to develop text based chatting application (WEB).
While exploring the Video chat element i came across WebRTC -RTCDataChannel for sending out arbitrary data across connected peers.
My Chat Server( preferably NodeJS ) will be serving the connections for peers, along with saving text chat history.
Confusion:
Should I use Socket.io-MyChatServer as the Signalling server also? [Possible?] , Or
Should I use RTCDataChannel for signalling server? , Or
Simply forget Socket.io and consider WebRTC for both !
Thanks in advance :)
Well WebRTC data channels and web sockets are different and complementary concepts in the case of peer connections.
In order to open a data channel you first need a P2P connection. In order to establish a P2P connection, you need a signaling server. So, sockets are used for that purpose, to exchange the metadata necessary to create a P2P connection. First, through sockets you establish a peer to peer connection and only after that you can use data channels.
As for using the same chat server as signaling server is up to you. WebRTC let the signaling server architecture be defined by the developer. It's a blackbox.
So, no you can't use data channels as signaling, as you can see.
I'm having a problem using websockets in my backend. I have to re-write some old with golang and old developer using websocket while one client tracking other client's location.
both client connecting websocket with given url
"\(URLConstants.webSocketURL)?token=\(token)&jobId=\(jobId)"
So I thought both client connecting websocket with her/his own token and I need to reflect user's message to other user. I can open two sockets with given url.
It's the first time that I'm using websocket so I'm not sure I'm asking the right question.
You need to send the information to the existing sessions that you stored from opened connection and distribute the information to other users.
Try to go through this solution to get some inspiration https://github.com/suricatatalk/core/blob/master/core.go.
Right now I'm using socket.io with mandatory websockets as the transport. I'm thinking about moving to raw websockets but I'm not clear on what functionality I will lose moving off of socket.io. Thanks for any guidance.
The socket.io library adds the following features beyond standard webSockets:
Automatic selection of long polling vs. webSocket if the browser does not support webSockets or if the network path has a proxy/firewall that blocks webSockets.
Automatic client reconnection if the connection goes down (even if the server restarts).
Automatic detection of a dead connection (by using regular pings to detect a non-functioning connection)
Message passing scheme with automatic conversion to/from JSON.
The server-side concept of rooms where it's easy to communicate with a group of connected users.
The notion of connecting to a namespace on the server rather than just connecting to the server. This can be used for a variety of different capabilities, but I use it to tell the server what types of information I want to subscribe to. It's like connection to a particular channel.
Server-side data structures that automatically keep track of all connected clients so you can enumerate them at any time.
Middleware architecture built-in to the socket.io library that can be used to implement things like authentication with access to cookies from the original connection.
Automatic storage of the cookies and other headers present on the connection when it was first connected (very useful for identifying what user is connected).
Server-side broadcast capabilities to send a common message to either to all connected clients, all clients in a room or all clients in a namespace.
Tagging of every message with a message name and routing of message names into an eventEmitter so you listen for incoming messages by listening on an eventEmitter for the desired message name.
The ability for either client or server to send a message and then wait for a response to that specific message (a reply feature or request/response model).
I have an API running on a server, which handle users connection and a messaging system.
Beside that, I launched a websocket on that same server, waiting for connections and stuff.
And let's say we can get access to this by an Android app.
I'm having troubles to figure out what I should do now, here are my thoughts:
1 - When a user connect to the app, the API connect to the websocket. We allow the Android app only to listen on this socket to get new messages. When the user want to answer, the Android app send a message to the API. The API writes itself the received message to the socket, which will be read back by the Android app used by another user.
This way, the API can store the message in database before writing it in the socket.
2- The API does not connect to the websocket in any way. The Android app listen and write to the websocket when needed, and should, when writing to the websocket, also send a request to the API so it can store the message in DB.
May be none of the above is correct, please let me know
EDIT
I already understood why I should use a websocket, seems like it's the best way to have this "real time" system (when getting a new message for example) instead of forcing the client to make an HTTP request every x seconds to check if there are new messages.
What I still don't understand, is how it is suppose to communicate with my database. Sorry if my example is not clear, but I'll try to keep going with it :
My messaging system need to store all messages in my API database, to have some kind of historic of the conversation.
But it seems like a websocket must be running separately from the API, I mean it's another program right? Because it's not for HTTP requests
So should the API also listen to this websocket to catch new messages and store them?
You really have not described what the requirements are for your application so it's hard for us to directly advise what your app should do. You really shouldn't start out your analysis by saying that you have a webSocket and you're trying to figure out what to do with it. Instead, lay out the requirements of your app and figure out what technology will best meet those requirements.
Since your requirements are not clear, I'll talk about what a webSocket is best used for and what more traditional http requests are best used for.
Here are some characteristics of a webSocket:
It's designed to be continuously connected over some longer duration of time (much longer than the duration of one exchange between client and server).
The connection is typically made from a client to a server.
Once the connection is established, then data can be sent in either direction from client to server or from server to client at any time. This is a huge difference from a typical http request where data can only be requested by the client - with an http request the server can not initiate the sending of data to the client.
A webSocket is not a request/response architecture by default. In fact to make it work like request/response requires building a layer on top of the webSocket protocol so you can tell which response goes with which request. http is natively request/response.
Because a webSocket is designed to be continuously connected (or at least connected for some duration of time), it works very well (and with lower overhead) for situations where there is frequent communication between the two endpoints. The connection is already established and data can just be sent without any connection establishment overhead. In addition, the overhead per message is typically smaller with a webSocket than with http.
So, here are a couple typical reasons why you might choose one over the other.
If you need to be able to send data from server to client without having the client regular poll for new data, then a webSocket is very well designed for that and http cannot do that.
If you are frequently sending lots of small bits of data (for example, a temperature probe sending the current temperature every 10 seconds), then a webSocket will incur less network and server overhead than initiating a new http request for every new piece of data.
If you don't have either of the above situations, then you may not have any real need for a webSocket and an http request/response model may just be simpler.
If you really need request/response where a specific response is tied to a specific request, then that is built into http and is not a built-in feature of webSockets.
You may also find these other posts useful:
What are the pitfalls of using Websockets in place of RESTful HTTP?
What's the difference between WebSocket and plain socket communication?
Push notification | is websocket mandatory?
How does WebSockets server architecture work?
Response to Your Edit
But it seems like a websocket must be running separately from the API,
I mean it's another program right? Because it's not for HTTP requests
The same process that supports your API can also be serving the webSocket connections. Thus, when you get incoming data on the webSocket, you can just write it directly to the database the same way the API would access the database. So, NO the webSocket server does not have to be a separate program or process.
So should the API also listen to this websocket to catch new messages
and store them?
No, I don't think so. Only one process can be listening to a set of incoming webSocket connections.
Situation
Am trying to build a real-time chat toy app using the following technology stack
RethinkDB
Laravel 5
Ratchet
What I perceive to be the conceptual situation
The green arrows represent the real-time exchange of data.
The black arrows represent other non real-time requests and exchange of data.
My question
I was wondering if my understanding of the implementation of chat using the technology stack is correct based on the diagram?
if there are inaccuracies, what would they be?
Your interpretation seems correct, although I would not suggest using the websocket to send data to but only to distribute live data to all subscribers of a channel.
To do this, get an API(preferably) going to receive new posts/chats/users.
And use a push server to send the data received to the socket.
A push server is just an in between of the app and websocket that allows php(laravel) to access the socket easily.
Edit: to elaborate
To retry explaining this to you.
All clients listen to the WebScoket Server. This is a connection which is passive and they will only receive messages from the socket according to what topics/subscriptions they have.
When someone wants to send a message(in case of a chat application) they send it to an API to check if the right user sent it, maybe even use apikeys or other means of security.
Once the message is received in the API then the API wants to distribite it to all listening clients for that chat room/topic/subscription.
So the message is forwarded to the pushserver which is an in between of the backend (API, controllers) and the WebSocket (subscriptions, topics).
The pushserver forwards the message to the WebSocket afterwards and then the WebSocket distibutes the message to the correct listeners.
Advantages of using an API:
Security
Scalability