I am new to this !
I am working for a chat application which requires text+ video chats.
I explored Socket.io initially and found it very handy to develop text based chatting application (WEB).
While exploring the Video chat element i came across WebRTC -RTCDataChannel for sending out arbitrary data across connected peers.
My Chat Server( preferably NodeJS ) will be serving the connections for peers, along with saving text chat history.
Confusion:
Should I use Socket.io-MyChatServer as the Signalling server also? [Possible?] , Or
Should I use RTCDataChannel for signalling server? , Or
Simply forget Socket.io and consider WebRTC for both !
Thanks in advance :)
Well WebRTC data channels and web sockets are different and complementary concepts in the case of peer connections.
In order to open a data channel you first need a P2P connection. In order to establish a P2P connection, you need a signaling server. So, sockets are used for that purpose, to exchange the metadata necessary to create a P2P connection. First, through sockets you establish a peer to peer connection and only after that you can use data channels.
As for using the same chat server as signaling server is up to you. WebRTC let the signaling server architecture be defined by the developer. It's a blackbox.
So, no you can't use data channels as signaling, as you can see.
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When taking a look at the Pusher Servcer and their Client / Server API I am having some problems trying to figure out how Pusher will help me allow bi-directional communication between devices / apps.
I am having multiple smaller devices / apps in the field that should return their status to a server or another client, which acts as a dashboard to browse all those devices and monitor status, etc.
In my understanding this can be done using traditional WebSockets and a cloud-server in between which manages all connections between those clients - something I though Pusher would be.
But after reading through the docs I can't really see a concept of bi-directional data communication. Here's why:
To push data to the clients I have to use one of Pushers Server Libraries
To receive that Data I have to use one of Pusher Client Libraries
This concept however does not fit into what I need. I want to:
Broadcast to Clients.
Clients can send Data directly to Clients (Server acting as Gateway / Routing).
Clients can send Data to Server.
Server can send / response to unique Client.
When reading about Pusher, they state: "Bi-Directional Communication" which I currently cannot see. So how to implement that advertised Bi-Directional Communication?
Pusher does PubSub only. Using this, you can simulate bi-directional communication: Both sides of the conversation each need to have a topic dedicated to the conversation, and you then publish to this.
This is not ideal. For something which is probably closer to what you seem to want, take a look at WAMP (Web Application Messaging Protocol), which has more than just PubSub. There is a list of implementations at http://wamp-proto.org/implementations. For a router I would recommend Crossbar.io (http://crossbar.io), which has the most documentation to help you get started. Full disclosure: I am involved both with WAMP and Crossbar.io - but it's all open source and may just be what you need.
Right now I'm using socket.io with mandatory websockets as the transport. I'm thinking about moving to raw websockets but I'm not clear on what functionality I will lose moving off of socket.io. Thanks for any guidance.
The socket.io library adds the following features beyond standard webSockets:
Automatic selection of long polling vs. webSocket if the browser does not support webSockets or if the network path has a proxy/firewall that blocks webSockets.
Automatic client reconnection if the connection goes down (even if the server restarts).
Automatic detection of a dead connection (by using regular pings to detect a non-functioning connection)
Message passing scheme with automatic conversion to/from JSON.
The server-side concept of rooms where it's easy to communicate with a group of connected users.
The notion of connecting to a namespace on the server rather than just connecting to the server. This can be used for a variety of different capabilities, but I use it to tell the server what types of information I want to subscribe to. It's like connection to a particular channel.
Server-side data structures that automatically keep track of all connected clients so you can enumerate them at any time.
Middleware architecture built-in to the socket.io library that can be used to implement things like authentication with access to cookies from the original connection.
Automatic storage of the cookies and other headers present on the connection when it was first connected (very useful for identifying what user is connected).
Server-side broadcast capabilities to send a common message to either to all connected clients, all clients in a room or all clients in a namespace.
Tagging of every message with a message name and routing of message names into an eventEmitter so you listen for incoming messages by listening on an eventEmitter for the desired message name.
The ability for either client or server to send a message and then wait for a response to that specific message (a reply feature or request/response model).
I'm new to socket.io. In Realtime (Web) Applications, we used to choose whether it should be WebRTC or WebSocket (or even SIP, still?) technologies.
What exactly is socket.io in this case please?
WebSockets
socket.io is a popular open source library implemented on both backend and client side. This library is based on WebSockets API which allow a communication between a SERVER and a CLIENT.
WebRTC
On the other hand, WebRTC is a WebAPI which comes with basically 3 things:
Real Time Communication between two browsers (no server needed), a peer to peer connection (P2P)
Media Streaming (Audio and Video)
Real Time Communication Data Chanel (stream any data on P2P)
The main difference is that WebSockets needs A SERVER and it is based on publish/subscribe pattern where you can send raw data back and forth, without having any special data handling by default. In contrast, WebRTC has a lot of functions already in place which can be used to handle Audio/Video streaming and also the raw data with data chanel.
For more info I recommend reading on MDN links I provided above and also check this very cool slides on sockets and webRTC
If you want to make video or audio communication services use WebRTC for browser build in support and write the discovery and signaling. webrtc have awesome features like P2P connections and data encryption.
WebRTC client side (browser) features like get video and audio data with good support in evergreen browsers: http://iswebrtcreadyyet.com/#interop
And socket.io is good for build centralized pub / sub apps like text chat
You can make connections with WebRTC without socket.io but both works fine if you use socket.io for help in signaling
I'm trying to understand the concepts of socket.io and websockets.
Suppose you have many users connected in a channel over socket.io, can two (peers) of them start a private conversation (with video for example) without passing their data through socket.io server?
For instanace, browser to browser with websocket.
I am asking because I need to let the data (audio video) flow from browser to browser between two users so the server will not be saturated with data of users starting private conversation.
If it is possible, what data needs to be exchanged to make this happen?
You should read this answer, how to make a browser to browser connection.
https://stackoverflow.com/a/7933140/3375010
Actually, it's not possible to initiate a p2p communication with socket.io. But WebRTC allows that, it supports browser to browser applications for voice, video, file sharing...
I am new to Websockets. While reading about websockets, I am not been able to find answers to some of my doubts. I would like if someone clarifies it.
Does websocket only broadcasts the data to all clients connected instead of sending to a particular client? Whatever example (mainly chat apps) I tried they sends data to all the clients. Is it possible to alter this?
How it works on clients located on NAT (behind router).
Since client server connection will always remain open, how will it affect server performance for large number of connections?
Since I want all my clients to get real time updates, it is required to connect all my clients to server, so how should I handele the client connection limit?
NOTE:- My client is not a Web browser but a desktop application.
No, websocket is not only for broadcasting. You send messages to specific clients, when you broadcast you just send the same message to all connected clients, but you can send different messages to different clients, for example a game session.
The clients connect to the server and initialise the connections, so NAT is not a problem.
It's good to use a scalable server, e.g. an event driven server (e.g. Node.js) that doesn't use a seperate thread for each connection, or an erlang server with lightweight processes (a good choice for a game server).
This should not be a problem if you use a good server OS (e.g. Linux), but may be a limitation if your server uses a desktop version of Windows (e.g. may be limited to 200 connections).