I've asked a question about what is "rendering a view". Got some answers:
Rendering a view means showing up a View eg html part to user or
browser.
and
So by rendering a view, the MVC framework has handled the data in the
controller and done the backend work in the model, and then sends that
data to the View to be output to the user.
and
render just means to emit. To print. To echo. To write to some source
(probably stdout).
but don't understand then the difference between rendering a view and using the Response class to send the output to the user using its sendResponse() method. If render a view means to echo the output to the user then why sendResponse() exists and vise versa? sendResponse() exactly sends headers and after headers outputs the body. They solve the same tasks but differently? What is the difference?
In ZF, rendering a view doesn't actually output any content. Instead the rendering process returns the content as a string to the caller. Zend_Application automatically takes care of taking the rendered view and inserting it into your layout (assuming you use layouts) through a placeholder, and putting that data into the Zend_Controller_Response_Http object which is ultimately responsible for delivering the content to the user. The reason for the Response object is so it can encapsulate your HTML output, and also manage any additional HTTP headers or redirects you want to send.
You can also manipulate further the contents of the response in the Response object prior ot sending the data to the client if you wish.
sendResponse() takes care of sending any headers (including the HTTP response code), checking for any exceptions that may have occurred (due to not being able to send headers or other reasons) and then sends the HTML which could include your layout and one or more rendered view scripts.
Hope that helps.
They are two very different things.
Rendering a view provides another layer in which you can template your data. This will allow you to easily dynamically populate HTML/templates keeping logic seperate from presentation.
Echoing data directly skips this step, and is usally reserved for reterning json/xml (data) responses to user instead of html response.
You didn't post which framework you are talking about but both should allow you to specify response headers.
Please don't oversimplify. Every server's purpose is to render resource but that doesn't mean they are all the same.
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I have read a lot of answers relating to how to dynamically add forms to an model formset in Django and can successfully implement that. However, I would now like to submit the formset with AJAX. This is mostly working now but I have an issue that I can't find a solution to in any other answer:
If you dynamically add a form to the formset, you give it a new form id number that is one larger than the maximum the form currently has and you also increment the management TOTAL_FORMS count by one. The newly added form then saves successfully as a new object.
I am trying to submit by AJAX so the user can continue editing without having the page refresh. The formset saves fine but any dynamically added forms are now existing objects. To account for this I need to increment the INITIAL_FORMS count on the management form when the save is successful. Easy enough. However, I've also realised I need to give the newly created objects an ID since they now exist in the database.
How can I get my view to tell me the ID of the new objects in its response to the AJAX call? Or is there a better way of looking at this?
Django forms and formsets are intended for classic browser-based posting of data. Though they can definitely be made to work with Javascript, the more you want to part from the normal behavior, the more complex it gets.
Depending on your requirements, you might start thinking about dropping it and switch to Javascript + REST endpoint. Of course, if you need progressive enhancements and you are required to have it work without javascript, that's not an option.
In any case, you want to have a customized view for posting from JS, so that you can get the result back and parse it easily in your AJAX handler. Probably some JSON.
There are several approaches you could take.
Have your AJAX send data to a different URL. This is pertinent if you have an API or are planning to build one at some point. So your form, when submitted normally, will do its old-style processing but your AJAX will talk to the API endpoint instead.
For instance, your form send to https://example.com/myform, but your Javascript code talks to REST api at https://example.com/api/v1/mymodel/ (sending PUT, POST and DELETE requests as appropriate).
Or if you don't have an API and building one seems overkill, you may just alter your view so it formats its output differently depending on whether the data is being submitted in the regular way or using AJAX.
You'd go about it like this:
class MyFormView(.....):
def render_to_response(self, context, **kwargs):
if self.request.is_ajax():
return self.render_to_json(context, **kwargs)
return super().render_to_response(context, **kwargs)
def render_to_json(context, **kwargs):
data = {
# see below!
}
return HttpResponse(
content=json.dumps(data).encode('ascii'),
content_type='application/json',
)
This is just an outline. You need to ensure is_ajax will detect it properly (see django doc). And you need to properly build data from context: extract the things you want to send back to your JS code and put them in the dict.
You will find it's manageable if you just do this for one, maybe two views in your project, but very quickly you'll want to have a small API instead, especially given how easy it is to build one with packages such as Django REST framework.
In your view, where you save the object, AFTER the save, the object.id will contain the new id for the object, which you can return via json or however you want in your ajax response, and then yes you will need to fill that into the formset row so that it will be submitted the next time.
One thing you have to watch out for is that django expects all existing rows to be at the top of the formset, and any new rows to be at the bottom. Otherwise, the formset save will complain about missing id's. So if you're doing any kind of sorting in your javascript, you can't do that.. unless you do quite a bit of fixing of all the field names etc in the formset. The formset code uses the numbers in the management form to determine which rows to insert and which rows to update, it does not do it on the basis of whether or not an id is present. Unfortunately...
I need to get response data (incuding html markup) on server and then replace them to anothe one and send to the client.
Is where the best way to do this?
Response.OutputStream is closed for reading.
So what can I use for reading data?
I need to get response data (incuding html markup) in controller
For obvious reasons that's not possible. The response HTML is generated when the view executes, at a much later stage after the controller action has finished executing.
If you want to modify the response HTML you could write a response filter.
I want to change the list of available values in a dropdown depending on the value selected in another dropdown and depending on values of certain fields in the model. I want to use JQuery to do this. The only hard part is checking the values in the model. I have been informed that I can do this using Ajax. Does anyone have any idea how I will approach doing this?
AJAX is indeed the technology your looking for. It is used to sent an asynchronous request from the client browser to the server.
jQuery has an ajax function that you can use to start such a request. In your controller you can have a regular method tagged with the [HttpPostAttribute] to respond to your AJAX request.
Most of the time you will return a JSON result from your Controller to your view. Think of JSON as something similar to XML but easier to work with from a browser. The browser will receive the JSON and can then parse the results to do something like showing a message or replacing some HTML in the browser.
Here you can find a nice example of how to use it all together.
Why are there GET and POST requests in AJAX as it does not affect page URL anyway? What difference does it make by passing sensitive data over GET in AJAX as the data is not getting reflected to page URL?
You should use the proper HTTP verb according to what you require from your web service.
When dealing with a Collection URI like: http://example.com/resources/
GET: List the members of the collection, complete with their member URIs for further navigation. For example, list all the cars for sale.
PUT: Meaning defined as "replace the entire collection with another collection".
POST: Create a new entry in the collection where the ID is assigned automatically by the collection. The ID created is usually included as part of the data returned by this operation.
DELETE: Meaning defined as "delete the entire collection".
When dealing with a Member URI like: http://example.com/resources/7HOU57Y
GET: Retrieve a representation of the addressed member of the collection expressed in an appropriate MIME type.
PUT: Update the addressed member of the collection or create it with the specified ID.
POST: Treats the addressed member as a collection in its own right and creates a new subordinate of it.
DELETE: Delete the addressed member of the collection.
Source: Wikipedia
Well, as for GET, you still have the url length limitation. Other than that, it is quite conceivable that the server treats POST and GET requests differently; thus the need to be able to specify what request you're doing.
Another difference between GET and POST is the way caching is handled in browsers. POST response is never cached. GET may or may not be cached based on the caching rules specified in your response headers.
Two primary reasons for having them:
GET requests have some pretty restrictive limitations on size; POST are typically capable of containing much more information.
The backend may be expecting GET or POST, depending on how it's designed. We need the flexibility of doing a GET if the backend expects one, or a POST if that's what it's expecting.
It's simply down to respecting the rules of the http protocol.
Get - calls must be idempotent. This means that if you call it multiple times you will get the same result. It is not intended to change the underlying data. You might use this for a search box etc.
Post - calls are NOT idempotent. It is allowed to make a change to the underlying data, so might be used in a create method. If you call it multiple times you will create multiple entries.
You normally send parameters to the AJAX script, it returns data based on these parameters. It works just like a form that has method="get" or method="post". When using the GET method, the parameters are passed in the query string. When using POST method, the parameters are sent in the post body.
Generally, if your parameters have very few characters and do not contain sensitive information then you send them via GET method. Sensitive data (e.g. password) or long text (e.g. an 8000 character long bio of a person) are better sent via POST method.
Thanks..
I mainly use the GET method with Ajax and I haven't got any problems until now except the following:
Internet Explorer (unlike Firefox and Google Chrome) cache GET calling if using the same GET values.
So, using some interval with Ajax GET can show the same results unless you change URL with irrelevant random number usage for each Ajax GET.
Others have covered the main points (context/idempotency, and size), but i'll add another: encryption. If you are using SSL and want to encrypt your input args, you need to use POST.
When we use the GET method in Ajax, only the content of the value of the field is sent, not the format in which the content is. For example, content in the text area is just added in the URL in case of the GET method (without a new line character). That is not the case in the POST method.
What is the difference between GET and POST for Ajax requests?
I don't see any difference between those two, except that when I use GET, the parameters are send in URL, which for me don't really make any difference, since all requests are made on background and user doesn't find any difference.
edit:
What are PUT and DELETE methods used for?
GET is designed for getting data from the server. POST (and lesser-known friends PUT and DELETE) are designed for modifying data on the server.
A GET request should never cause data to be removed from an application. If you have a link you can click on with a GET to remove data, then Google spidering your site could click on all your "Delete" links.
The canonical answer can be found here, which quotes the HTML 2.0 spec:
If the processing of a form is idempotent (i.e. it has no lasting
observable effect on the state of the
world), then the form method should be
GET. Many database searches have no
visible side-effects and make ideal
applications of query forms.
If the service associated with the processing of a form has side effects
(for example, modification of a
database or subscription to a
service), the method should be POST.
In your AJAX call, you need to use whatever method your server supports. You should always design your server so that operations that modify data are called by POST/PUT/DELETE. Other comments have links to REST, which generally maps C/R/U/D to "POST or PUT"(Create)/GET(Read)/PUT(Update)/DELETE(Delete).
If you're sending large amounts of data, or sensitive data over HTTPS, you will want to use POST. If it's just a simple parameter, I would use GET.
GET requests have a limit to the amount of data that can be sent. I forget the exact number, but this can cause issues if you're sending anything substantial.
Basically the difference between GET and POST is that in a GET request, the parameters are passed in the URL where as in a POST, the parameters are included in the message body.
Whether its AJAX or not is irrelevant. Its about the action that you're taking. I'd recommend following the principles of REST. Which have further provisions for updating, deleting, etc...
GET requests are easier to exploit in CSRF (cross site request forgery) attacks. Namely fake POST requests require Javascript to be enabled on the user side, while fake GET requests are still possible just with img, script tags.
Many web servers limit the length of the data that can be passed as part of the URL, so the GET request may break in odd ways that are hard to debug.
Also, most server software logs URLs in the access logs, so if you pass sensitive information (such as passwords) in a GET request, this will in all likelihood be written to disk in plaintext.
From a REST perspective, GET requests should have no side-effects -- they shouldn't modify data. So, if you're just GETting a resource by ID, this makes sense, but if you're committing changes to a resource, you should be using PUT, POST, or UPDATE for the http verb.
Both are used to send some data and receive some response using that data.
GET: Get information store in server. Ie. Search, tweet, Person Information. If you want to send information then get request send request using process.php?name=subroto
So it basically send information through url. Url cannot handle more than 2083 char. So for blog post can you remember it is not possible?
POST: Post do same thing as get. User registration, User login, Big data send, Blog Post.
If you need to send secure information then use post or for big data as it not go through url.
AJAX: $.get() and $.post() contain features that are subsets of $.ajax(). It has much configuration.
$.get () method, which is a kind of shorthand for $.Ajax (). When using $.get (), instead of passing in an object, you pass in arguments. At minimum, you’ll need the first two arguments, which are the URL of the file you want to retrieve (i.e. ‘test.txt’) and a success callback.
Summary:
$.get( url [, data ] [, success ] [, dataType ] )
$.post( url [, data ] [, success ] [, dataType ] ) // for sending secure or Large information
$.ajax( url [, settings ] ) // More Configaration
First, general information. Use GET if you only read data, use POST if you change something on database, txt files etc.
But the problem is, some browsers cache GET results. I had problems with AJAX requests in IE7, but at last I found out that browser caches GET results. I rethought the flow and changes my request to POST.
So, don't use GET if you don't want caching.
(Of course you can disable caching in GET operations. But I didn't prefer it)
About me, i prefer POST. I reserve get to the events i know the sent value is limited to data i have the "control", for example, to retreive an item with an id. Example, "getitem?id=123", "deleteImtem?id=123", ... For the other cases, when i have a form fillable by a user, i prefer POST.
Like Ryan Smith have said, it's better to use POST to send a large amount of data, and less wories in cases of the use in others language/special chars (generally all majors javascript framework should'nt have any problems to deal with that but i think is less wories to use POST).
For the REST perspective, in my opinion, you can use this with a new project (to keep a consistency with the entire project).
Finally, maybee some programs used in a network (URL loguers (ie.: to see if the employees lost their time on non-autorised sites, ...) proxys, ... ) or any other kind of tool can intercept the query. Somes will show in the reports the params you have sent with GET, considering it like a different web page. But in this situation, is could be not your problem it's changes from a project to an other! ;)
The difference is the same between GET and POST whether you're using Ajax, HTML forms, or curl. Here are the relevant definitions:
GET
POST
If you are passing on any arguments with characters that can get messed up in the URL (such as spaces), you use POST. Otherwise you can use GET.
Generally, if you're just passing on a few tiny arguments you would use GET. But for passing on user submitted information such as blog entries, text, etc, its a good practice to use POST.
There are also certain frameworks that rely completely on segment based urls (such as site.com/products/133 rather than site.com/products.php?id=333 and these frameworks unset the GET variables for security. In such cases you would use POST allt the time.