Is it possible to get the load testing features of VS 2010 Ultimate without buying ultimate? Does MS sell the feature packs a la carte? I'm having a hard time finding a clear answer to this, so hopefully someone here can clarify.
Barring that, but still within the bounds of my question...are there 3rd party load testing tools that are similar to what VS 2010 Ultimate provides?
There are lots of load testing tools available - search for 'load testing software'. I'll pimp our free version: Load Tester LITE.
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I'm currently investigating my options to run automated tests from within Visual Studio 2008 Professional. I noticed that the MSDN page documenting the integrated funcionality is only available for VS 2008 and VS 2005. This kind of makes me suspcious. Since we are planning to upgrade to VS 2010 I'm wondering whether I will able to continue to use my configurations and knowledge with VS 2010? Does anyone here have made any experience with this?
TIA, Thomas
No need to be nervous, the terminology around the test configuration has merely changed in VS 2010. Most of what you know is the same but resides under different product branding which causes some versioning problems in the documentation.
Most notably, "test configuration" is often referred to as "test settings" under 2010.
Microsoft moved away from silo-ed "Team Test" terminology of VS 2005/2008 to a more holistic big picture known as Microsoft Application Lifetime Management, where testing is an integrated component for delivery of successful applications. Keep in mind that most of the documentation you'll find for testing refers to the Test Manager, which ship with the Ultimate and Test editions of Visual Studio. The Test Manager ties Tests to Use Cases and Requirements and is part of that big picture.
If you're not going down the ALM big picture, the focused view of just running tests hasn't changed much at all, with the exception of some new features like Test Impact which are pretty cool.
The following links may be useful to you, as it sounds like you're interested in how the tests can be used by developers or part of your build process:
Running Automated Tests within Visual Studio
Running Automated Tests from the Command-line
Hope that helps!
I was under the impression that Microsoft Test Manager 2010 was included in Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Premium. Is this not the case?
I can't seem to find anywhere online where it tells you which versions have the Test Manager included.
I'd really like to take advantage of the functionality of the Test Manager if possible, and MSDN's documentation on testing generally uses the Test Manager for just about everything it seems. So any information on the following would be much appreciated:
Is Microsoft Test Manager 2010 included in VS2010 Premium?
If so, where can it be found?
If not, which versions do include it?
Or is it a separate download in itself, in which case where can that download be found?
Microsoft has an article that runs down the testing in the new Visual Studio 2010 SKUs. It looks like Test Manager is only included in VS2010 Ultimate. The other SKUs can create tests that can be consumed by Test Manager, but the Ulitmate seems to be the only version with Test Manager.
It looks like it can be purchased separately from VS as part of the Visual Studio Test Professional 2010. There is a stand alone trial that can be downloaded.
Bottom line: If you need Test Manager, take a hard look at Ultimate not because it has more features ... the perverse pricing and promotion policies of Microsoft's various channels might mean that Ultimate is actually cheaper than a product with fewer features like Premium Get the CURRENT market price -- do not pay any attention to Microsoft list prices.
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VS2010 Ultimate gives you Test Manager [and a lot of other benefits] ... you could add Visual Studio Test Professional 2010 with MSDN to Premium to just get Test Manager, but right now [as of early 12/19/2010] the best current market price for the full Ultimate version is significantly less than the Premium version through one of the merchants selling through Amazon. The CURRENT Amazon listings are as follows:
Visual Studio 2010 Premium with MSDN List price $5469 Offered price $4,989.99
Visual Studio 2010 Ultimate with MSDN List price $11899 Offered price $2,789.00
Visual Studio Test Professional 2010 with MSDN List price $2169 Offered price $1,925.99
Realize these prices were already out-of-date when I hit the [SAVE] button.
If you needed any proof, hopefully this example demonstrates that you cannot ever lazily assume that a better product with more features is going to cost more. It's not just Microsoft -- this is routine. The old adage "you get what pay for" does not work anywhere anymore -- you need to check market prices and haggle as you see fit.*
I am. And I am wondering if there is any good reason to use professional .. Also for hobbiest programming...
So far the only thing I have missed is being able open certain .sln files that use testing projects and more advanced things.. but that not that big of a deal.. though I do miss testing
I was first surprised that the small consulting company I am working at does not use a paid edition of VS2010 (and SVN instead of TFS and Open Office instead of MS Office)
Anyone else working at a place like this? With the new Platform installer I like how I can get a new machine running and easily check and install what I need for free so that makes it even easier.
There's one good reason: Microsoft does not allow 3rd party extensibility in Express. Plug-ins like ReSharper add significant value to Visual Studio. I have trouble imagining doing professional work in a timely manner without them.
For those with experience of VS2008 and VS2010. Are there any areas in which you prefered 2008? Any annoyances with the upgrade?
Any reasons not to upgrade?
I'm coming at this from a Web Dev point of view.
Thanks
I think it depend principally of how you use VS.
If your goal is to continue to use Windows Form without Linq (some people stay with VB6...), VS 2010 don't seems to be a good investment...
But if you use, or plan to use WPF and co., VS 2010 seems to be a good investment for me !
So, i think it's interesting to ask yourself : "Any reason NOT to upgrade to WPF and Linq ?"
About your the fear of change like Office 2003 -> Office 2007
Yes, me too, i feel "dropped to my grandma's level"...
But i feel like that too with the change Windows Form -> WPF.
It's good for me : it's not with the improvement of the candle the the bulb was invented !
Office 2007 is for me a great improvement for the user interface...
But it's just my point of vue.
The main reason to upgrade to Visual Studio 2010 is the .NET Framework's new version 4.0, and all the accompanying tools you can use.
If you don't need this new version now, you can delay the upgrade: that's a reason.
But sooner or later, because we all know that we can't stay behind, we'll have to step forward... This is why all of us are using Visual Studio 2008 instead of Visual Studio 6.0 and build software for Windows 7 instead of Windows 98...
If you're in a team, one person upgrading forces all of your developers to have to upgrade as the Solution files and Project files will be marked as being 2010 format and VS2008 won't read them. One of our developers checked in a project using a 2010 beta and now we can't work on it as we didn't buy 2010 yet :(
I suggest you get VS2010 Express (when it's around) and experiment with it as far as performance goes. It's not quite the same as the full version, but close enough to spot big problems I should think.
The purpose is to have a USB flash to have a developer seat everywhere. The idea is to use application virtualization to package Visual Studio.
However, AFAIK, there are big problems.
Have anyone succeeded in packaging Visual Studio (2010, 2008) using ThinApp, App-V, ...
P.S. I'm aware of google.
This is not possible. There's nothing "thin" about Visual Studio, it has an enormous mass of files in many different directories and a very large number of critical registry entries. Including many COM components. That it works as well as it does is one of the modern day's Seven World Wonders of software engineering.
Your license allows you to install VS on more than one machine as long as only one user uses it. I recommend you take advantage of it.
It is possible to install Visual Studio 2013 in App-V, it takes a lot of time to load and takes about 3Gb in .dat file. Compiling and debugging in C++ tested and works but really slow. No errors or popups for missing components so far. After experimenting I made a final virtualization script that works. p.m me.
It is possible to make Visual Studio portable version using VMWare Thinapp. No installation will be needed for Visual Studio, .net Framework or any other dependency. It works with Visual Studio Express edition 2008 as I have experimented but for version 2010, it say "Invalid Licence Data. Reinstall...". If you find a way, please tell me!