I am experimenting with a home-grown application hosting framework, and I'd like to abstract the input/output so I can gracefully handle crashes. Chrome uses a very similar model.
Is there any way I can take an arbitrary window handle, and persuaded it to start rendering to a back-buffer? Or should I create my own window first, and then reparent the client app into it?
As the comments said you can do anything if you're willing to dig in and hook the APIs themselves, but according to the remarks in the MSDN WM_PAINT page WM_PRINT is the supported way to force a window to paint on a specific DC.
It sounds like you also need to keep the window from showing up on the desktop - in that case you can use WM_SETREDRAW as described in On Win32, can I disable painting of a window for a period of time?.
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Our agency has a Java web application that uses a third party Java applet as a TIFF viewer. In this application javascript spawns a separate window (and yes, it must be a separate window). We are currently using an in-house ActiveX control so that the HTML window can have the window state, window size and position, and screen device presisted and restored via localStorage. Our agency is IE11 only so for now using it is not a problem. It's embedded in the page and operates on the "containing window".
This control was made many years ago in VB6. It appears that Visual Studio doesn't support the creation of ActiveX controls, and I don't personally have the knowledge or skill to create one another way.
Please do not suggest the HTML DOM window and screen objects! Most answers I've searched for just refer to these! They can't get the entire browser window size (viewport + chrome + toolbars + titlebar), nor does javascript have any idea about Windows-specific things like window state and screen device (it's always the OS primary screen). I understand the HTML DOM can't be tied to anything OS-specific in order for it to be implementable on multiple platforms.
Up until now this control has worked pretty well - you can, for example, maximize on a given screen and restore the window to the same screen. But I realize that ActiveX won't be supported forever and it's IE only...It seems to me, though, that the need for such functionality can't be totally uncommon. I'm guessing that some may suggest that the application UI should be changed so that this is less of a problem - but being able to put the viewer on a different monitor from the application, and having that window be restored exactly to it's last position is important to us. I do understand that if you reuse that window the user only has to position it once, but we'd rather not require this of the user.
Question: are there any alternatives to interacting with the win32 API other than COM/ActiveX ? Are there any other methods of accurate window persistence that can know about screens other than the OS primary, and maximized/minimized/normal windows) that use something other than the Win32 API?
I'm making an application that hooks itself in to a target application and, when activated by the user, prevents all keyboard and mouse window messages from reaching the target application's window proc. My application does this by translating the incoming input messages, such as WM_MOUSEMOVE, to WM_NULL, so that the window proc is unaware input happened.
The problem is that Windows also automatically sends WM_SETCURSOR and WM_NCHITTEST to the window proc (e.g. when the application calls PeekMessage) when mouse input occurs. These messages aren't posted to the window's message queue, so I can't change them to WM_NULL.
I initially worked around this by subclassing the window proc and simply ignoring WM_SETCURSOR and WM_NCHITTEST there, but subclassing seems to have compatibility issues with some of the applications I'm hooked in to.
My question is: How do I prevent WM_SETCURSOR and WM_NCHITTEST from being generated in the first place OR how do I prevent them from reaching the application's window proc.
Some Ideas to Try
I just finished implementing a global/system wide CallWndRetProc with a WH_CALLWNDPROCRET Windows Hook (like it describes in the past post of the link below).
http://help.lockergnome.com/windows2/Igor-SetCursor-SetWindowsHookEx--ftopict285504.html
Using that in combination with hiding all the system cursors using SetSystemCursor has effectively hidden the cursor for most applications.
If you wanted to continue hacking at this target application, you could try using API Monitor to diagnosis what is going on: http://www.rohitab.com/apimonitor
The guy at rohitab hints at releasing his source code eventually; his site seems to have some of the better forums about Hooking, Subclassing, Injecting, etc.
It sounds like you successfully used SetWindowLongPtr(), but there are a few different ways to get into the address space of the program you are working on...
Have you tried SetCapture()?
Other Links
Here are a few other links that may be useful:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/31747
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms646262(v=vs.85).aspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms633569%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#winproc_subclassing
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms648395(v=vs.85).aspx
Hope that helps. Good luck.
I have a friend who's working at a company that offers pretty poor support for its developers (scoring a 1/12 on the Joel Test).
Their build process is locked down pretty tight, and depending on the size of project it could take 40+(x2) mouse clicks to deploy. So I thought, "Hey, why not automate it the clicks using the win32api?" (Specifically using Python). I've got him a real nice tool that works just fine except for one issue - the tool that they use has a navigation pane that may or may not be open.
You can open and close it with a button press, but I'm not sure how I could make sure it was either open or closed. It's irrelevant to the build process - the only problem is that it alters where the mouse needs to click on the screen depending on its open status. The application is written in .NET and it exposes a function call that applications are able to use to toggle the panel, so I've been looking around for ideas and so far I've got two of them:
Attach to the process via a debugger and execute the function call somehow.
Take a screenshot at the location of the panels titlebar (which I've got through the win32 API and doesn't appear to change regardless if the panel is hidden or not).
Is there an easier way to figure out the state of this panel? The developers are given an admin account on their machine in addition to their regular account, so I can entertain ideas that require admin access, though I don't think that should be necessary?
UPDATE:
It looks like there's a button that can close the pane. In UIAVerify something shows up as "text" "Navigation" "btnClose". It says its AutomationId is btnClose but it's a ControlType.Text
What technology is this panel built from? Is it standard GDI or WPF? If its GDI, it should have a HWND. You should be able to find this HWND through either a class name or window title. Once you have the HWND, you can get its width.
If its built with WPF, er, I have no idea, but Snoop does this kind of thing, so I know its possible.
I want to get the window handle of some controls to do some stuff with it (requiring a handle). The controls are in a different application.
Strangely enough; I found out that many controls don't have a windows handle, like the buttons in the toolbar (?) in Windows Explorer. Just try to get a handle to the Folder/Search/(etc) buttons. It just gives me 0.
So.. first question: how come that some controls have no windows handle? Aren't all controls windows, in their hearts? (Just talking about standard controls, like I would expect them in Windows Explorer, nothing customdrawn on a pane or the like.)
Which brings me to my second question: how to work with them (like using EnableWindow) if you cannot get their handle?
Many thanks for any inputs!
EDIT (ADDITIONAL INFORMATION):
Windows Explorer is just an example. I have the problem frequently - and in a different application (the one I am really interested in, a proprietary one). I have "physical" controls (since I can get an AutomationElement of those controls), but they have no windows handle. Also, I am trying to send a message (SendMessage) to get the button state, trying to find out whether it is pushed or not (it is a standard button that seems to exhibit that behaviour only through that message - at least as far as I have seen. Also, the pushed state can last a lot longer on that button than you would expect on a standard button, though the Windows Explorer buttons show a similar behaviour, acting like button-style checkboxes, though they are (push)buttons). SendMessage requires a window handle.
Does a ToolBar in some way change the behaviour of its child elements? Taking away their window handle or something similar? (Using parent handle/control id for identification??) But then how to use functions on those controls that require a windows handle?
If they don't have a handle, they're not real controls, they're just drawn to look like controls.
But of course, the toolbar buttons in Windows Explorer do have window handles, they're part of a toolbar. Use the toolbar manipulation functions to interact with them, not EnableWindow.
Or, better yet, use the documented APIs for things like search. Reverse-engineering Windows Explorer has never ended well for anyone, least of all the poor Windows Shell team, saddled with years of backwards-compatibility hacks for certain developers who thought that APIs are for everyone else. Whatever you do manage to get to work is very likely to break on the next version of Windows.
The controls you are talking about are using the ToolbarWindow32 class. If you want to interact with them then you'll need to use the toolbar control APIs/message. For example for enabling buttons you'd want to use TB_ENABLEBUTTON.
You can implement the controls yourself using GDI, OpenGL or DirectX. Try Window Detective on Mozilla Firefox and you will see that there is only one window. Controls in dialog boxes are not windows known to Windows.
Under Windows their is something called a Windowless Control.
RichEdit
What is a Windowless Control and what are its benefits?
A Windowless control is an object that gives you the behavior of a control without requiring you to create a window.
This is useful when you want to modify or extend the behavior, or when you want to make use of the behavior in places where creating a window would be awkward or difficult.
Say, for instance, you want to imbed hundreds of rich edit controls on a page, if they were each windows, then each would have to get focus in order to get user input, and each would paint individually, etc.
But if you are willing to keep track of the locations of the windowless controls and do some other housekeeping that you would normally get for free by creating a window (i.e. routing keyboard messages), then you can get better results with lower overhead by using windowless controls.
This might be helpful.
Anon's right. It's a control that doesn't require an underlying window handle (HWND). The need for those arose especially with web browsers, since there's a limit of 10,000 max handles per process. You would open like two tabs of semi-complicated web pages and you'd run out of handles.
Working with and especially rolling your own windowless controls is hard, because at least you need to recreate their original, sometimes very complex and tricky implementation. (f.e.: IE's listbox is still windowed control because of all the tricky intricacies)
Windowless controls do not have a dedicated window handle.
in my opinion,windowless control might use less sys resource and it's easiser to customize