Here is the situation, I have setup 2 codeigniter installation.
One will be a client and one will be an api. Further improvement of this will be
The client will no longer be made from CI, since I wasn't using it's functionality. I just wanted to start out from a mvc framework right on.
My question would be where should I be storing sessions? during logins.
Below is how I did it, but I think I did it wrong.
I created a Login from the client. This one sends the login credentials to the api and then validated these information sent by the client and will return a message/response whethere the login credentials were valid or not.
If the login details were valid, the api will set a session in it's controller like this
if(true) {
$this->session->set_userdata($array);
}
This is in the login_controller I created. Is this the proper way of setting sessions for a client of a api?
You've got the concept right. You only want to set session userdata upon verifying the user supplied valid credentials.
That said, make sure you're using encrypted cookies and, if you're handling sensitive data, store your session data in the database. Storing it in the database causes some odd quirks with how sessions work in CodeIgniter (mainly with flashdata), but the added benefit of positive identification might potentially be worth it.
By storing the session data in the database, you can more positively verify a user is who they claim to be (in terms of the session ID, etc). The reason is because the session data is stored only in the database, and not in the session cookie (which only holds session ID and some other info). That way, even if someone does manage to decrypt the cookie, they can't modify their userdata to pretend to be someone else, like you might be able to with the cookies only method.
Related
I have read a lot about json tokens vs session and still dont understand a few things.
benefit of using token is authentication across multiple devices.
Lets say user signs up on website, server generates session id, sends to client, client saves it in cookies or localstorage (so whenever user wants to log in again on website, client sends session id to server on each request, sever queries db and checks if its same id if yes sends response). Then same user, uses mobile app to log in, since session id is only stored inside computers browsers cookies/localstorage and not on mobile device or other computer, how would the log in from either different computer or mobile device happen?The server would send a different session id to each device the user logs in and then there is some sort of array stored on the server with ALL the users session ids?!
I also read that its much simpler with tokens as they are stateless. I just dont understand how that is relevant when it comes to multiple devices.
I read that for each request server checks using same signature as it used when it issued the token, if its valid. Client needs to send that token to server though with each request. So isnt that the same - different computer never stored the token inside cookies/localstorage so how would that work?!Would server need to create a different token? If thats the case, I dont get the difference and why session is less benefitial then tokens when it comes to multiple devices!
Also, I read: "Session cookies only work across a single domain, or on its subdomains. If they try to go to a third party, browsers tend to disable them....that wont happen with tokens". I dont understand what it means and how its related to multiple devices, also why cookies are relevant as json tokes ARE usually ALSO stored in cookies as well as session id?!
Sorry if its maybe too basic, I just read so much about that and just dont understand the basics.
there are some important differences between JWT and sessions.
Sessions are stored inside RAM of the server or a database to store where a user is or what he is doing. For example, you store the current page the user is working on.
BUT JWT is stateless. The server does not save the user state or his data to RAM or database. the server generates a key for the user including some important data for authentication(for example username, role, last access date) therefore the user must send his key with every request until his key expires and he must request for another one. Since the key only includes User Auth data, It can be used in every device(until it expires).
as you mentioned in mobile applications user gets multiple sessions so JWT mostly used in mobile or single-page applications. the user gets a key and state of user activity will be handled by mobile application.
Hope this helps.
I am new to web application , I am learning cookies and session, I understand HTTP is stateless protocol to make it stateful we use cookies at client side and session at server side.
When user requests a webpage it sends all the cookies available for that
browser on the PC.
If any one of the cookie matches with server side database , the server
shows the data , else sends set cookie with a session iD(optional to send
create session and send the session ID).
a. If server sends set cookie the client sends cookie in all respective
requests with the session id , only if the domain name matches with the
server to which the client sent .
Now my doubt is suppose I am working on an e-commerce site. And the server sends the number of items added to the cart till the user is not logging out , now it can be done using cookie alone why do we need session at all?
Is there something I am not understanding ?
These are separate concepts:
Cookie - Browser sends this with every request automatically
Header - Part of a HTTP request, the browser will only send data here if instructed.
Access token - Contains secret which may be a JWT (and identify the user) or a random set of characters
Session - a token bound to a user + device that authenticates the user. If the user doesn't have an access token, they can use the session to get a new token.
You can see that Cookie/Header are the where and access token/session token are the what.
The user needs to authenticate in your service. That means you need to be able to identify the user. That may be done with a JWT, session token, IP address, a signature, etc... And that is separate from how this data is transmitted to the service from the user.
So when you say why do you I need session when the user has cookies, these are totally unrelated. The session id may be saved in a cookie, that's just one option.
Whether or not the session id in a cookie corresponds to actual data on the server side is another completely separate question. Should the session token be a encrypted (or signed) object, like a JWT which contains user identifying information, or should that data be saved in a server side DB, and only transmit a random-string identifier. Who knows?
The answer is going to be based on what's critical for your application. Generally speaking, session tracking on the server side is a legacy concept, and the new hotness (which is old now), is to make the sessionId a JWT saved a HTTP Only cookie for security. And then passed on every request.
Lot's of services have sessions and access token management baked in, and for a working example and more about tokens, check out any one of many knowledge bases.
Because:
There may be, and probably is, sensitive data in that session, e.g. the user's id, identifying who the user is. If you just stored the user's id in a cookie, the user could manipulate it and easily pose as anyone else. There are of course ways to mitigate that, but simply not allowing the user to futz with the cookie contents (because it's just a meaningless session id) is the simplest.
It allows the server to manage session state; e.g. if a user suspects somebody is logged in as them on another device, they can invalidate all other sessions ("log me out everywhere" functionality).
You may be storing a lot of data, and sending it back and forth in a cookie on every request can become rather wasteful.
You may want to associate something like a shopping basket with the user's account, not just the user's browser, so when they log in on another device their shopping cart is following them around.
Yes, there are also perfectly fine cases were storing information just in a cookie is fine and preferable, especially since that allows you to scale your server more easily to a cluster of servers without having to worry about where the session information is stored. It depends on what information exactly you are storing.
The usual pattern is
the cookie contains only a unique session identifier (but no useful information itself)
the session storage (server-side) contains the associated data for this session. This can be a) very big and b) hidden from the user/browser and c) trustworthy (because the user cannot just modify it in the browser)
It is preferred to use sessions because the actual values are hidden from the client, and you control when the data expires and becomes invalid. If it was all based on cookies, a user (or hacker) could manipulate their cookie data and then play requests to your site.
I have a standard HTML login page, which I would much rather use than the standard HTTP authentication pop-up provided by browsers. Today, I am using session cookies to keep track of the session after logging in, but I'd like to be stateless and pass the HTTP authentication every time. The web services I am hitting already support this, so this is a browser-only issue.
Adding authentication credentials is trivial in jQuery, but I don't know how to keep them around. If you go from the login page (a jsp) to the Home page (another jsp) you clearly don't keep the username and password fields from the login page. I know some browsers will store your HTTP authentication credentials if you enter them from the pop-up, but I don't know if they get stored when using an XHRRequest. If they do, is there much consistency among browsers?
Also, the user needs to be able to "sign out" of the application, too. If the browser stores the authentication credentials, is there a way to clear them using JavaScript.
I feel like I can't be the first person to try to solve this. Is there some jQuery plugin or something that already handles this? Or is it simply not possible to do what I'm trying to do?
You have 2 options:
1) Client-side storage of credentials -- not a good idea. For obvious reasons you don't want to store the username/password on the client. If you had a hashed version of the password, it might not be so bad, but still not recommended. In any case, if you're going to store on the client side, you either have to use a cookie, or HTML5 local storage (which is not widely supported, yet)
2) Server-side storage of credentials -- typically done with sessions. Then the resultant Session ID can be passed back to the client and persisted in either a cookie or in the URL of each subsequent AJAX call (?SESSID=xyz for example)
The server-side approach would be the most secure, reliable, and easiest to implement
Okay, I'll take a stab at helping ...
Firstly, understand how HTTP authentication works. There are two versions - Basic and Digest. Basic transmits in plaintext, digest is encrypted. With these types of authentication, the username/password are passed in the HTTP header with every single request. The browser captures these at login and they are stored in an inaccessible browser session cookie which is deleted when the browser session is closed. So, in answer to one of your questions, you can't access these from javascript.
You could create your own session cookie variables for username and password. The jQuery functions for this are really simple. See jquery-cookie module as one example of how to set session cookies. These could be retrieved from the session cookie and sent with each ajax request and validated in the server. However, this is not a particulary good way to do authentication since sniffing the network will allow anybody to easily grab your auth details. But, it would work.
Using session cookie based authentication where the session ID is sent sent with each request is the best way to do this. At the server side, you need to have a function called for every HTTP request. This function should do the following:
check to see if the session has been authenticated
if no:
redirect to login screen
if yes:
do authorization and allow the user access to the page
Most web frameworks support session cookie authentication and the management of session ids at the server. This is definately the way to go.
This is interesting one.
Manage user sessions on server by use of cookies. Create a session when user first accesses the login page and pass the session id/key as value to one of the cookie via response. When the user is authenticated put user "key" info in cookie and "values" in application context at server. Once user is logged, any subsequent request will be authenticated based on session cookie value at server. Authorization will be done based on user "key" passed as cookie value.
On logout clear the session based cookies from server and refresh the site to default page.
Cookies are bizarre with different browsers - just a note ;)
Hope this helps.
Update
The answer below was posted in 2012 and the links are mostly dead. However, since then, a more elegant standards-based approach to the same solution appeared using JSON Web Tokens. Here is a good blog post explaining how to use them.
Most answers miss the point, which is to avoid having any server-side session. I don't want any application state in the server. I'll award the bounty to answer that came closest, but the real credit goes to the rest-discuss group and Jon Moore for the correct answer and to Mike Amundsen for helping me to actually understand it.
The best answer I've gotten is to use a cookie, but not the typical automatic session id cookie given to you by most application servers. The cookie (which will automatically be sent with each subsequent request) is a user identifier and time signed by the server. You can include an expiration time with the cookie so it simulates the typical 30 minute session on a server (which means you have to push it forward with subsequent requests) as well as keeps the same cookie from being valid forever.
The XHR/AJAX part is a red herring. This will work whether you are doing XHR requests or an old-fashioned page-by-page web application. The main points are:
The cookie is automatically sent on subsequent requests so there's no
special scripting required - it's just how browsers work already.
The server does not need to store any session for the user, so the user
can hit any server in a cluster and not have to re-authenticate.
Slightly interesting in that you consider pushing some of the authent to the client. If you want a conventional solution, KOGI's server-side suggestion is the way to go.
But you also seem to be asking questions about memory leaks involving your user supplied secrets. Good questions. But to take a general stab at answering that I'd say it would have to be browser specific. It's browser internals, javascript engine internals -dependent where a client side application (i.e., the browser, or js in the browser) is storing the values the user inputs.
Most likely those values are not replicated needlessly throughout memory, but there's no way to guarantee that. Apart from responsible javascript coding practices, there's nothing you can do to guarantee the limit of locations of user inputs.
Slight digression
The basic point is if you store it on the client it is not really secure -- unless, the serve stores encrypted information on the client with a key that only the server (or the user via their correct credentials), has. So you could conceivably code a JS application to do some authent on the client -- much the same as how bank card (used to?) do POS authent by checking the PIN to the PIN on the card, and not back at the DB. It's based on the (somewhat flimsy) assumption the user has no direct read/write access of the "dark area" cookie/local storage on client / mag strip on bank card. So I would only advise this as disqualifier for false authents and not as a sole qualifier for the credentials.
Main point
If you do want to be stateless, just store user credentials in localstorage, or as a cookie but encrypt them with a server key. When you need them send an XHR with the encrypted / use stored credentials to the server over HTTPS, let your server decrypt them and send them to the callback. Then pass those cleartext of HTTPS to do your authent.
How can I increase the security of my sessions?
$this->session->userdata('userid')
I've been throwing this little bad boy around for my ajax calls. Some cases I haven't. Then I was like, is this really secure using id from the DOM? what if the DOM is changed to hack user accounts data? So then I was like I guess anytime a user is doing something relating to their id, only sessions should be referenced. Am I right?
Referenced like so:
$this->some_model->do_data_stuff($dataId, $this->session->userdata('userid'));
Then I read this:
While the session data array stored in the user's cookie contains a
Session ID, unless you store session data in a database there is no
way to validate it. For some applications that require little or no
security, session ID validation may not be needed, but if your
application requires security, validation is mandatory. Otherwise, an
old session could be restored by a user modifying their cookies.
http://codeigniter.com/user_guide/libraries/sessions.html
I'm not going to be storing financial data but I don't want any data on my site corrupted ever. Does SO use session validation? How much overhead will this validation cost? How would a session be hacked? What are some things to look out for with session security?
Using CodeIgniter sessions with database is going to be fairly secure. You just don't have to trust the input that the user gives. Even if you are using AJAX, the CodeIgniter session will work just like any standard call, so the same security goes on.
What happens with the CodeIgniter session is that the server stores the cookie, and every time the user does an action that would change the content of the cookie, it is first compared to the previous cookie.
If the user changes the content of the session cookie in the browser, CodeIgniter will notice on the next server call, and create a new session for the user, basically logging him out.
CodeIgniter doesn't really need the data stored in the cookie in the user's browser, and as long as you're using
$this->session->userdata('userid');
you're going to get trusted server-side data. The user can't change that. Furthermore, the cookie can be encrypted, and you should have it encrypted. Just look in config.php of CodeIgniter.
There are several other protections around the session data: the short refresh timeout (usually 300 seconds), it checks if the IP changed, and if the browser changed. In other words, in the worst case scenario, the only way to spoof the session data is by having the same version of the browser, having the same IP, getting direct access to the computer to copy/paste the cookie, and getting this done within 5 minutes.
So, watch out for the guy sitting beside you!
I'm trying to make a web service secure.
It's not for a bank or anything of that sort, but the organization using it may lose some money if the service will be used by someone not authorized (it's hard to tell exactly how much..).
The purpose is not to allow unauthorized applications to use any method (other than "GetChallenge". for users authentication there is a different mechanism which checks for username and password. I actually combined the two, but they serve different purposes):
So here's what I do:
I send a (ASP.NET) session key (for everyone to read. ASP.NET's session Is 15 randomly generated bytes, it lives for 20 minutes unless prolonged, and ASP.NET will not receive any request without it).
In my SignIn method, apart from username and password (which anyone can acquire, since it's a part of a public site), I receive a third parameter - the session key hashed by md5 algorithm with 6 bytes as salt.
And only if the hash is correct (I'm hashing and comparing it on the server side) - I let the users sign in.
From then on in every method, I check if the user is signed in.
Added: The username and password are sent as clear text, and that's not a problem (not the one I'm addressing at least). The problem is for someone (other than the company we're working with) writing an application which uses my web service. The web service should only be used by an authorized application.
Also, the session id is sent back and forth with every request and response (as a part of ASP.NET session mechanism. That's how ASP.NET knows to "track" a session specific for a user). Sorry for not clarifying that from the first place.
(irrationally thought it was obvious).
How strong and effective is that security strategy?
Thanks.
Updated based on your edit and comment
It's pretty secure and is very similar to the approach used by Google, Facebook and others for their API keys. Except...
Session ID plain text potential issue
I would recommend against using Session ID as part of a security mechanism.
The one issue is with passing the session key in plain text across the network. There is potential that this could open up some Session hijack and other attacks.
From the Microsoft Docs:
The SessionID is sent between the server and the browser in clear text, either in a cookie or in the URL. As a result, an unwanted source could gain access to the session of another user by obtaining the SessionID value and including it in requests to the server. If you are storing private or sensitive information in session state, it is recommended that you use SSL to encrypt any communication between the browser and server that includes the SessionID.
As you are using the Session ID as part of your security mechanism I would say that is sensitive data.
One way to ensure someone doesn't get hold of your session key is to run your service on HTTPS. Personally I would avoid using the Session ID in this way and generating a non-related value instead.
Recommended change
Follow more closely the model used by Google and the like. Generate a new GUID for each application, store the GUID in a database on the server, pass the GUID in each request to your server from the client.
Benfits:
Identifies the client application uniquely, allowing you to track and manage usage per client nicely
Easily disable any client by removing the GUID from your data store
No sensitive data on the wire
I would still run the service on HTTPS as it's easy to setup and gives the added benefit of protecting any other data you send to your service.
The purpose of encryption is not to
allow unauthorized applications to use
any method
Wrong. The purpose of encryption it to prevent the understanding of data whilst either in transit or stored. It prevents data being 'useable' by those that do not have the means to decrypt.
What you are describing is something similar to a public/private key system. You're making your session key available to everyone. Then only after they've md5 with the correct salt (as per your server side comparison) you're then trusting that source.
You've got NO authentication here except for username and password. Also your data isn't encrypted during transit. I fail to see how this is at all secure.
I think you're best bet is to use an SSL certificate (so your web service is running over HTTPS) along with the username and password. If you want to be doubly secure you might want to go down the route of checking source IP ranges and login locations as an additional check. Perhaps a forced password change interval will help in the case that consumers are passing credentials to a third party + audit how the web service is actually being used.
As a side note if you want to hash something don't use MD5, its broken.
From a web services perspective the ideal way to use authentication or provide security to your service is something like this: Web Service Authentication (Token and MD5 Hashing to encrypt password).
The way you describe it, it does not seem secure at all.
What is the point of letting the SignIn method accept a hashed session key, if the session key is public ("for everyone to read")?
Plus: "in every method, I check if the user is signed in. " How do you check that?
A common (and reasonably secure) strategy would be to generate a (unique, sufficiently long and random) session ID server-side, and send it to the client after it has authenticated. Then check every client request and only accept it if it contains the session ID. To do this, either embed the ID into all links on every page, or set it as a cookie, depending on what's easier for you.
On logout, just delete the session ID on the server.
That way, no one can invoke any method without a valid session.