I am running and supporting a PowerBuilder 11.2 application running in windows 7 64bit environment. The previous version of this program ran without a problem, and 99% of this new program runs without a problem. However, when I run a specific bit of functionality, at times the program throws an exception "Sybase PowerBuilder 11.0 has stopped working" Problem event name APPCRASH Application Name PB110.EXE, Fault Module Name PBSHR110.dll, Exception code c0000005 in the dev environment. In the compiled version running on the client machine the error "A breakpoint in an application indicates a program error. After this dialog is dismissed, the application will continue to run, but it may be in an unstable state" and the program closes
There are shared PBL files throughout this whole application. It is a framework that supports 6 MDI programs. I have performed a full build on the main objects and it compiles without error. The other programs that in the framework that use these common objects to not have this problem. I have tried to step through the code doing a debug, but when I step through the code, it does not crash.
I have re-installed PB 11.0 and the PB 11.2 upgrade again and of course rebooted numerous times. I am at a loss here. I have tried everything that worked before and have spent over a week trying to find something online, so I am now appealing to the group. Any help at all will be so very much appreciated. Until then, I'll keep trying.
Thanks.
John
It could be that PB 11.2 is not listed as being supported on Windows 7. A lot of times you can get lucky, and most applications will still work on unsupported OS's. Yet, an update may be released that breaks something. You may want to try downloading the latest release of PB which is 12.6 and migrate a copy of your application to that version. You will at least be able to rule out if that is the issue or not.
Enclosed is Sybase PowerBuilder Enterprise version 11.2, which is
compatible with the following platform and operating system
configurations:
Microsoft Windows XP with Service Pack 2
Microsoft Windows XP Tablet PC Edition with Service Pack 2
Microsoft Windows Server 2003 with Service Pack 1
Microsoft Windows Vista Business Edition
PowerBuilder 11.2 builds 32-bit applications, but supports deployed
applications in both 32-bit and 64-bit environments on the Vista
operating system. For more information about using PowerBuilder on the
Vista operating system, see “Vista Support” in the online Help. For a
list of issues that have been found on the Vista operating system, see
“Vista issues”.
Microsoft Windows 2000 with Service Pack 4 is supported for deployment
only. All support for this platform will be discontinued in future
releases of PowerBuilder.
Short version:
When I moved to Win7, I manually removed the MDAC 2.7 lines from my .ISM module, built it, and installed my software. It seems to work. Can I trust it?
Longer version:
We have just gone from XP to Windows 7. The software we deliver is C# (.NET 4 framework), targeting XP and Windows 7. It contains a few older COM modules, one of which is written in VB6. (Yes, I would love to rewrite this in a modern technology, but that's not an option at this point.)
I use InstallShield 2010 to build the installer for this package. Building this installer on XP worked with no problems. When I try on Windows 7, it wants MDAC 2.7 as a prerequisite merge module. Microsoft doesn't allow you to download 2.7 anymore, and I'm not going to get it from "Sharewarez R'us" sites.
The error InstallShield gave me when it couldn't find the merge module was: File not found. An error occured merging Module 'MDAC27ENU...'
From what I've read on the web, Windows 7 has the latest-greatest MDAC (now renamed WDAC) already installed. On a whim, I manually deleted the MDAC dependencies from the .ISM, built and installed, and my software seemed to run just fine.
What I think is happening is Win7 is noticing that something in VB6 is using MDAC and the OS is supplying the latest-greatest and it just works. I no longer need the merge module because Windows 7 has WDAC built in. (Can it really be that simple?)
My main question is: can I trust it?
My secondary question is: What about XP deployments? They will still need MDAC 2.7... Does that indicate I can't build on Windows 7 to target XP if I require MDAC 2.7? Please point me in the right direction. Thanks.
You need a comprehensive review (dependency analysis) of your installer. The VB6 runtime and MDAC/WDAC components are all built into windows these days. This is also the case with Windows XP and the latest service pack.
Either your ISM is referencing the MDAC merge module or it's referencing another merge module that has a dependency on the MDAC merge module. Hence why I suggest a complete review.
Without looking at your application I can't give you a 100% answer but odds are that if you implement a setup condition (launch condition) to check for XP latest service pack or newer that you will likely work without installing a bunch of stuff you don't need to be installing.
I'm trying to install the Windows 8 SDK. As requested by the installer, I uninstalled the Windows 7 SDK and than started the installation. The installer exits with an error:
You must uninstall the Windows Software Development Kit before you can install the latest version of the kit.
What components do I need to uninstall except the Windows 7 SDK?
If you have not found the answer to this yet, the MSDN article Windows Software Development Kit (SDK) for Windows 8 may help.
I ran into a similar problem. When the install of the Windows 8 SDK fails there will be a "Show log files" link visible. Click on that and then open the most recent log file. Search for the error you're seeing. There should be something in the log which says which component it found. (For me it was App Verifier.) Then go to Add/Remove Programs and uninstall that program. You should now be able to install the Windows 8 SDK.
I have Uninstall the current Windows Software Development Kit using Add/Remove Programs and then download the latest version from the MSDN site:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/hh852363.aspx
and manage to install the Win SDK with no errors
VS6 popped off a series of errors before bombing out completely during install on Windows 7. I specifically need to get VB6 functioning on Windows 7. Anyone having any luck?
Folks on the VB6 newsgroup report they have managed to get it working on Windows 7.
There's this step-by-step guide on how to install the IDE on Windows 7 (including 64 bit).
If that doesn't work (scrapes barrel) try this old tip about persuading the install not to install the Java VM? Link is now broken so here is the tip:
Before trying to install VB6. Create a new file, name it msjava.dll and place it in your windows directory. The file can be zero length. You can then happily install without the prompt to install an old version of Microsoft's flavour of Java. Once you have installed VB6, delete the msjava.dll otherwise windows update will prompt you to update it.
Or (scrapes hole in barrel) these tips from an article about getting the IDE working on Vista?
Footnote: if developing with ADO, be aware of this.
The only way I've found that works is Windows XP mode (i.e. a virtual machine). Works fine there, but otherwise, not at all.
I found ALL the answers in a thread at vbmonster.com. As mentioned above, you CAN install Visual Studio 6 with Service Pack 6 under Windows 7 by following Derek's detailed instructions at fortypoundhead.com.
I had a problem because I needed to install Service Pack 5. I use a third party program that does not work with Service Pack 6. A really smart programmer (GuideX) came up with a great hack to get around the MDAC 2.5 error.
Win 7 64 bit service pack 5 & 6. Turn compatability off and it seems to work.
Recently I had to debug an ancient application written in Visual C++ 6.0 on Windows 8.1. Tried different solutions all of them failed, only this one worked.
This guys made a special installer that allows installing VC++6, VB6, and SP6 on Windows Vista/7/8/8.1/10 without any errors whatsoever.
Hope it would be helpful to someone.
I installed VB6 on Windows 7 Pro without having to use compatibility settings or run as administrator.
Doesn't really help you, but does show that it can work.
Several people in my office have installed Visual Studio 6 (without VC++) on Windows 7, both 32-bit and 64-bit with no problems. The one thing we have in common: we've all turned UAC down to it's lowest setting. Nothing else special required.
I am using vb6 on windows 7 32 bit system for a long time.
you will need to install your vb6 with compatibility of xp2.
Create a 0-byte file in the C:\Windows directory called msjava.dll.
Don't just install via the Autorun executable; instead browse the Visual Studio 6 CD (or folder), right-click Setup.exe and select Run As Administrator.
On any Program Compatibility Assistant warnings, click Run Program.
Step through the setup screens until you're able to choose Custom Setup, then click next.
On the setup options, install the following items and nothing else:
Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0
ActiveX
Data Access
Graphics
Click continue and the process will start, and (hopefully) eventually complete.
Skip the installations of the MSDN CD, BackOffice, VSS and SNA Server, and clear the checkbox for "Register Now". Setup should be complete.
Download the VB6 Service Pack 6 from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/confirmation.aspx?FamilyID=A8494EDB-2E89-4676-A16A-5C5477CB9713&displaylang=en and install.
Change the compatibility settings for Visual Basic (to get it to run a little more smoothly under Windows 7) by browsing to C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VB98, right-clicking the VB6.exe file, and selecting properties.
On the Compatibility tab, check the following:
Run this program in compatibility mode for Windows XP (Service Pack 3)
Disable Visual Themes
Disable Desktop Composition
Disable display scaling on high DPI settings
When you start up the IDE, you may get a notification saying that the color scheme has been changed to Windows 7 Basic, but it will be changed back to Aero once you exit. Everything should be working fine at this point!
Note: when you first run your new install vb6 run it with admin rights and with xp2 compatibility so that your exe can run on any system.
The word "supported" is used loosely in this thread, potentially leading the unwary reader to the conclusion that Microsoft supports the VB6 IDE (that is, the integrated development environment) on operating systems beyond Windows XP. This fact clearly is stated in the table that appears on the page at this link:
https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/nikosan/2012/04/20/support-statement-for-visual-basic-6-0-on-windows-8-updated/
Note that executables developed using VB6 are in fact compatible with Windows OS's from Windows XP through Windows 10--32/64-bit versions:
https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2015/06/22/getting-ready-for-windows-10-sdks-compatibility-bridges/
Anyone using non-standard methods to coax the IDE into working on OS's that Microsoft does not support is exposing themselves/their organizations/their employers to risk and is not suitable for risk-averse organizations.
Having said that, I think the purest solution is to install Windows XP onto a virtual machine and run that VM in a modern host OS, such as Windows 10. That works just fine, and you can install directly from the VB6 Setup disc without making any pre-install/post-install customizations.
I had a Vista x64 box with a working copy of the VB6 IDE (which was supported). I upgraded the OS to Windows 7 x64 and the VB6 IDE still works fine. You could try that. I know, a huge PITA and kludgy but still, it worked for me.
I run Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit, installed Windows Virtual PC - XP Mode, and that solved my problem isince I can run MSDEV 6.0 in the XP Window.
Not esay to install XP Mode though, the MS site is buggy.
The VB6 programming language is supported on the Windows 10 Technical Preview.
Visual Vasic 6 applications run and the VB6 IDE installs and works too.
I have the VB6 IDE running OK on Win-XP-16, Win-7-32, Win-7-64, Win-8.1-32, Win-8.1-64, win-10-32 and win-10-64 by using the instructions above which basically say, turn off UAC, run the installer AS ADMIN, and then set the VB6.exe file to run in XP-SP3 Compatibility mode.
I have had some issues with it and have had to do a bit more googling to solve these but I don't remember any more what those issues or solutions were.
I've even got the VB3 IDE running on the 32-bit versions of XP, Win-7, Win 8.1 and Win-10 - without even installing them - just copied the C:\VB folder from another computer and copied the *.LIC license files and *.VBX etc files as well.
I have successfully installed vb6 on win 7 32 bit by installing xp first then installing new win 7, (not upgrade), and do not format. then it will install vb6 without a problem
It's depending on your build version of Windows 7.
If your Win7's version is lower or is not updated, it has MANY PROBLEMS with compatibility.
But mine is newer Win7 version and has NO COMPATIBILITY TROUBLE.
I am currently using VB6 , VS6 and they still work fine!
If Properties->Compatibility->Windows XP doesn't help, fix it with UPDATING your Win7.
Firefox depends on an extension and plugin installed by the .NET 3.5 installer to run XBAPs. Unfortunately, in Windows 7 the .NET 3.5 runtime is already installed.
Does anyone know how to get a hold of these plugins/extensions so you can actually deploy XBAPs to FireFox on Windows 7?
Turn out, the answer is to copy the DLL of the extension out of another (presumably XP) machine that can run the .NET 3.5 runtime and deploy it.
I'm uncertain of the legality of this maneuver, but it works.