I remember there was a way to do this, something similar to unix signals, but not so widely used. But can't remember the term. No events/mutexes are used: the thread is just interrupted at random place, the function is called and when it returns, the thread continues.
Windows has Asynchronous Procedure Calls which can call a function in the context of a specific thread. APC's do not just interrupt a thread at a random place (that would be dangerous - the thread could be in the middle of writing to a file or obtaining a lock or in Kernel mode). Instead an APC will be dispatched when the calling thread enters an alterable wait by calling a specific function (See the APC documentation).
If the reason that you need to call code in a specific thread is because you are interacting with the user interface, it would be more direct to send or post a window message to the window handle that you want to update. Window messages are always processed in the thread that created the window.
you can search RtlRemoteCall, it's an undocumented routine though. there's APC in Windows semantically similar to Unix signal, however APC requires target thread is in an alertable state to get delivered, it's not guaranteed this condition is always met
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What is the advantage/disadvantage over using RegisterWaitForSingleObject() instead of WaitForSingleObject()?
The reason that I know:
RegisterWaitForSingleObject() uses the thread pool already available in OS
In case of the use of WaitForSingleObject(), an own thread should be polling for the event.
the only difference is Polling vs. Automatic Event? or Is there any considerable performance advantage between these?
It's pretty straight-forward, WaitForSingleObject() blocks a thread. It is consuming a megabyte of virtual memory and not doing anything useful with it while it is blocked. It won't wake up and resume doing useful stuff until the handle is signaled.
RegisterWaitForSingleObject() does not block a thread. The thread can continue doing useful work. When the handle is signaled, Windows grabs a thread-pool thread to run the code you specified as the callback. The same code you would have programmed after a WFSO call. There is still a thread involved with getting that callback to run, the wait thread, but it can handle many RWFSO requests.
So the big advantage is that your program can use a lot less threads while still handling many service requests. A disadvantage is that it can take a bit longer for the completion code to start running. And it is harder to program correctly since that code runs on another thread. Also note that you don't need RWFSO when you already use overlapped I/O.
They serve two different code models. In case with RegisterWaitForSingleObject you'll get an asynchronous notification callback on a random thread from the thread pool managed by the OS. If you can structure your code like this, it might be more efficient. On the other hand, WaitForSingleObject is a synchronous wait call blocking (an thus 'occupying') the calling thread. In most cases, such code is easier to write and would probably be less error-prone to various dead-lock and race conditions.
I've created two threads A & B using CreateThread windows API. I'm trying to send the data from thread A to B.
I know I can use Event object and wait for the Event object in another using "WaitForSingleObject" method. What this event does all is just signal the thread. That's it! But how I can send a data. Also I don't want thread B to wait till thread A signals. It has it own job to do. I can't make it wait.
I can't find a Windows function that will allow me to send data to / from the worker thread and main thread referencing the worker thread either by thread ID or by the returned HANDLE. I do not want to introduce the MFC dependency in my project and would like to hear any suggestions as to how others would or have done in this situation. Thanks in advance for any help!
First of all, you should keep in mind that Windows provides a number of mechanisms to deal with threading for you: I/O Completion Ports, old thread pools and new thread pools. Depending on what you're doing any of them might be useful for your purposes.
As to "sending" data from one thread to another, you have a couple of choices. Windows message queues are thread-safe, and a a thread (even if it doesn't have a window) can have a message queue, which you can post messages to using PostThreadMessage.
I've also posted code for a thread-safe queue in another answer.
As far as having the thread continue executing, but take note when a change has happened, the typical method is to have it call WaitForSingleObject with a timeout value of 0, then check the return value -- if it's WAIT_OBJECT_0, the Event (or whatever) has been set, so it needs to take note of the change. If it's WAIT_TIMEOUT, there's been no change, and it can continue executing. Either way, WaitForSingleObject returns immediately.
Since the two threads are in the same process (at least that's what it sounds like), then it is not necessary to "send" data. They can share it (e.g., a simple global variable). You do need to synchronize access to it via either an event, semaphore, mutex, etc.
Depending on what you are doing, it can be very simple.
Thread1Func() {
Set some global data
Signal semaphore to indicate it is available
}
Thread2Func() {
WaitForSingleObject to check/wait if data is available
use the data
}
If you are concerned with minimizing Windows dependencies, and assuming you are coding in C++, then I recommend using Boost.Threads, which is a pretty nice, Posix-like C++ threading interface. This will give you easy portability between Windows and Linux.
If you go this route, then use a mutex to protect any data shared across threads, and a condition variable (combined with the mutex) to signal one thread from the other.
Don´t use a mutexes when only working in one single process, beacuse it has more overhead (since it is a system-wide defined object)... Place a critical section around Your data and try to enter it (as Jerry Coffin did in his code around for the thread safe queue).
I wish to launch a separate thread for handling window messages (via a blocking GetMessage loop), but still create the windows in the initial thread, afterward.
Within the separate thread, as soon as it launches, I am calling PeekMessage with PM_NOREMOVE to ensure a message queue exists (is this necessary?), followed by..
AttachThreadInput(initial thread id,GetCurrentThreadId(),true)
..before finally entering the message loop
I am not yet using a mutex or cs to ensure this is happening in time, but am merely using a Sleep statement in my initial thread for the sake of simplicity.
Regardless, window messages do not appear to be intercepted by the separate thread.
I am a little unsure as to whether I am doing this correctly, and would appreciate any possible guidance. Both threads are in the same process
Thank you all
That's not what AttachThreadInput does. Even after you attach your input queue to another thread, Windows still have thread affinity. Messages in the queue for a given window can only be removed from the queue by that window's thread.
What AttachTheadInput does is to make two threads share an input queue. This allows them to query information about the input state and know that the other thread will get the same answer for the same query. For instance, one thread could call GetAsyncKeyState and know that the answer reflected the key state for the other thread.
It allows two or more threads to have the same relationship to the input queue and each other as processes had in Windows 3x. This is the reason that this API exists; so that complex multiprocess applications could be ported from Win 3x to Win95/WinNT.
It seems the best way to instigate window creation from the main thread, while having messages for them handled in a separate, looping thread is to use a custom message, that can be sent to the separate thread - Thus allowing it to create the window, but still allowing that action to be invoked from the initial thread:
1) Allocate a custom message, and create a structure to hold the window initialisation parameters:
message_create_window = WM_USER + 0;
class Message_create_window{
Message_create_window(...);
};
2) Instead of calling CreateWindow(Ex), use something similiar to the following, passing in the relavant window creation parameters:
PostThreadMessage(
thread.id,
message_create_window,
new Message_create_window(...),
0
);
3) Handle the custom message in the message pump of your ui handling thread, extract the creation parameters, & free afterwards:
MSG msg;
GetMessage(&msg,0,0,0);
...
switch(msg->message){
...
case message_create_window:{
Message_create_window *data=msg->wParam;
CreateWindowEx(data->...);
delete data;
}break;
...
This does, however, have the following side-effects:
The window will be created asynchronously. If it is required that the initial thread block until the window is created (or, indeed, that the window's existence can ever be asserted) then a thread synchronisation tool must be used (such as an event)
Care should be taken when interacting with the window (it is a multithreaded application, after all)
If there are any major holes in this answer, or this seems like a terrible approach, please correct me.
(This is still my question, & I am trying to find the best way to accomplish this)
What happens when you call WaitForSingleObject() on a handle you've created with CreateFile() or _get_osfhandle()?
For reasons not worth explaining I would like to use WaitForSingleObject() to wait on a HANDLE that I've created with _get_osfhandle(fd), where fd comes from a regular call to _open(). Is this possible?
I have tried it in practice, and on some machines it works as expected (the HANDLE is always in the signaled state because you can read more data from it), and on some machines WaitForSingleObject() will block indefinitely if you let it.
The MSDN page for WaitForSingleObject() says that the only supported things that it handles are "change notifications, console input, events, memory resource notifications, mutex, processes, semaphores, threads, and waitable timers."
Additionally, would it be different if I used CreateFile() instead of _get_osfhandle() on a CRT file descriptor?
Don't do it. As you can see, it has undefined behavior.
Even when the behavior is defined, it's defined in such a way as to be relatively not useful unless you don't like writing additional code. It is signaled when any asynchronous I/O operation on that handle completes, which does not generalize to tracking which I/O operation finished.
Why are you trying to wait on a file handle? Clearly the intent matters when you are doing something that isn't even supported well enough to not block indefinitely.
I found the following links. The concensus seems to me, don't do it.
Asynch IO explorer
Waiting on a file handle
When an I/O operation is started on an
asynchronous handle, the handle goes
into a non-signaled state. Therefore,
when used in the context of a
WaitForSingleObject or
WaitForMultipleObjects operation, the
file handle will become signaled when
the I/O operation completes. However,
Microsoft actively discourages this
technique; it does not generalize if
there exists more than one pending I/O
operation; the handle would become
signaled if any I/O operation
completed. Therefore, although this
technique is feasible, it is not
considered best practice.
Egghead Cafe:
Use ReadDirectoryChangesW in
overlapped mode. WaitForSingleObject
can wait on the event in the
OVERLAPPED struct.
You can also use the API
WaitForSingleObject() to wait on a
file change if you use the following
change notification function:
FindFirstChangeNotification()
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/fileio/fs/findfirstchangenotification.asp
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dllproc/base/waitforsingleobject.asp
An interesting note on "evilness" of ReadDirectoryChangesW:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ericgu/archive/2005/10/07/478396.aspx
I'm implementing my app as a drag source. When I call DoDragDrop (Win32 call, not MFC) it enters into a modal loop and I don't get repaint messages in my main window until DoDragDrop returns. Unfortunately if I do a drop in the shell (a file) and the filename is already there the shell asks if I want to replace the file. But since me app is blocked because DoDragDrop hasn't returned it isn't repainting and looks 'frozen'.
Any clues ?
Have you tried a timer? I ran into the same problem with DoDragDrop() and other blocking calls like SHFileOperation() and solved it using a call to SetTimer().
EDIT: If you want more control over DoDragDrop() then a worker thread works well. You can try calling DoDragDrop() in the worker thread, as someone suggested, but I couldn't get the mouse capture to work properly. An easier solution is to call DoDragDrop() in the main thread and have the worker thread periodically post a WM_USER message to the main thread's queue. DoDragDrop() will then retrieve the message and dispatch it to your window's WndProc(), at which time you can perform idle processing for as long as the queue remains empty. If you give the worker thread a lower priority than the main thread, then it will execute and post the WM_USER message as soon as the main thread becomes idle (i.e., as soon as DoDragDrop() finishes processing all user input and calls MsgWaitForMultipleObjects() internally). This method is better than the SetTimer() method because it gives your application full control over the CPU. You don't have to wait up to 10ms (the minimum frequency that SetTimer() allows) after returning from your WM_TIMER handler returns before the next WM_TIMER message arrives.
I suggest running the drag-and-drop operation on a different thread. That way, DoDragDrop() will block the message loop in the new thread rather than the message loop in your UI thread. If you take this approach, you should also consider (off the top of my head):
Any code that might be run from both your main thread and your drag-and-drop thread will need to be re-entrant. As a corollary, you will need to protect any data structures used by both your main thread and your drag-and-drop thread. If your application is already multi-threaded, you should be familiar with these concerns.
You should think about what happens if your user never responds to the shell's dialog box. Can he continue to interact with your UI? Can he invalidate the data that would have been 'dropped' in the pending operation? Can he quit your application?
Seems like the real answer is to implement IAsyncOperation in my data object.