Make a signal wait until falling edge - matrix

I have this signal that should be zero until another signal Start = 0. How can I accomplish this? Here is the relevant code:
din<=0;
wait until falling_edge(start);
for i in 0 to 63 loop
wait until clk = '1' and clk'event;
if i = 0 then
Start <= '1','0' after clk_period;
end if;
if (i < 24) then
din <= 255;
elsif (i > 40) then
din <= 255;
else
din <= 0;
end if;
end loop;
wait;
I thought I could just make din = 0 until the falling edge of start but it stops at the rising edge of start. I want to start reading the din values when start =0. Before that din = 0.
Here is a pic:
EDIT: Actually I got it to start at the correct signal values but the dout value always has an intermediate value that isn't necessary. In this case its 78450. I know this has to do with the testbench code but I can't get it to just calculate the correct value at the correct time. What changes can be made to the code below to get rid of the intermediate value?
din<=0;
for i in 0 to 63 loop
wait until clk = '1' and clk'event;
if i = 0 then
Start <= '1','0' after clk_period;
elsif (i < 24) then
din <= 255;
elsif (i > 40) then
din <= 255;
else
din <= 0;
end if;
end loop;

First of all I assume (and hope) you are writing a testbench. If not, you should avoid using wait statements, as these have very limited support in synthesis tools.
Even in a testbench, it is best to use time-based wait or after statements only to generate the clock, and make all other signals dependent on an event (e.g. rising_edge(clk)). This avoids the problem of having multiple signals changing during delta cycle 0 along with the clock.
Consider the following code for a typical register:
process(clk) begin
if(rising_edge(clk)) then
a <= b;
end if;
end process;
and assume that clk and b are generated in a testbench as follows:
clk <= not clock after 1 ns;
process begin
b <= '1', '0' after 10 ns;
wait;
end process;
At time 0 delta 0, clk changes to '1' and b would change to '1'.
At time 0 delta 1, the register process would run since clk changed, and a would change to '1'.
No further sensitivity exists, so time would update to the next event at 1 ns.
At time 1 delta 0, clk changes to '0'.
At time 1 delta 1, the register process is run since clk changed, but nothing happens because rising_edge(clk) is false.
The above repeats for time 2-9 ns.
At time 10 delta 0, clk changes to '1' and b changes to '0'. Note that clk and b change in the same delta cycle.
At time 10 delta 1, the register process runs and a changes to '0'! As far as the result is concerned, this means that b changed before the rising clock edge!
Even if this behavior is understandable in this simple system, it can lead to some incredibly difficult to find simulation bugs. It is therefore better to base all signals off of the appropriate clock.
process begin
-- Initialize b to 1.
b <= '1';
-- Wait for 5 cycles.
for i in 1 to 5 loop
wait for rising_edge(clk);
end loop;
-- Set b to 0.
b <= '0';
-- Done.
wait;
end process;
This avoids unexpected behavior, since all signals will change at least one delta cycle after the associated clock, meaning causality is maintained throughout all of your processes.

I have this signal that should be zero until another signal Start = 0. How can I accomplish this?
Maybe you can use a handshake signal and put it in the sensitive list of the process. It will behave like a reset signal.
process (handshake_s, ...)
begin
if (handshake_s = '1') then -- failing edge of start
din <= 0;
else
-- do something
end if;
end process;
Use another process to update handshake_s.
process (start, ...)
begin
if failing_edge(start) then
handshake_s <= '1', '0' after 10 ns; -- produce a pulse
end if;
-- do something
end process;
Would you mind post all your code here so that we could understand the waveform better?

Testbench or RTL code?
For a testbench, your coding style is mostly ok, however, your signal Start has a problem and will never be '1' during a rising edge of clock. It goes to '1' just after the rising edge of clock and will return to '0' either simultaneously with clock or 1 delta cycle before clock (depending on your clock setup). Either way, anything running on rising_edge clock, such as your design, will not see it as a '1'.
A simple way to avoid this is to use nominal delays (25% of tperiod_Clk) on all of your testbench outputs that go to the DUT (Device Under Test). The pattern for a pulse is as follows.
wait until clk = '1' ; -- I recommend using rising_edge(Clk) for readability
Start <= '1' after tpd, '0' after tpd + tperiod_clk ;
Alternately, you can avoid this issue by not using waveform assignments. Such as the following. In this case, you don't need the tpd, however, if it really is a testbench, I recommend using it.
wait until clk = '1' ;
if i = 0 then
Start <= '1' after tpd ;
else
Start <= '0' after tpd ;
end if ;
For RTL code, you need to explore a different approach. Very briefly one way to approach it is as follows. Note do not use any delays, waveform assignments, or loops.
-- Counter to count from 0 to 63. Use "+ 1". Use "mod 64" if using type integer.
-- Start logic = decoder (can be coded separately)
-- Din Logic = decoder (can be coded separately)

Related

how can I understand a register correctly?

There is a problem always bothers me. I have written 3 similar functions in VHDL, code and simulation see below. out_1 and input_sig_2 are identicial with input. But out_1 is delayed for 1 clock cycle when compared with input_sig_1. Can someone tell me why is this happens? Is that because input_sig_1 is signal and input is port?
Any response will be highly appreciated!
input_sig_1 <= input;
out_2 <= input_sig_2;
process(clock)
begin
if rising_edge(clock) then
if reset = '1' then
out_0 <= '0';
out_1 <= '0';
input_sig_2 <= '0';
else
out_0 <= input;
out_1 <= input_sig_1;
input_sig_2 <= input;
end if;
end if;
end process;
You are changing the signal input at the same time, when a rising clock edge occurs. So the question is, which of both signal changes reaches first the clocked process. This depends at how many delta cycles you are inserting during the signal path from the testbench to the process. You insert by "input_sig_1 <= input;" one additional delta cycle, so the signal input_1_sig changes after the rising clock edge has reached the process. To avoid such problems you always should change input signals at the inactive clock edge, in your case at the falling clock edge (or at any other time, when no rising clock edge is assigned).

Blocking Assignments on SIGNALS in VHDL

I am making an FSM with VHDL. The simplest possible when valid = 1 change from stateA to stateB.
The confusing part is the rising edge selected by the blue rectangular. When valid = '1'. At the first rising edge, the state will be calculated to be B but it won't take effect until the next rising edge BUT what happened that it took effect at the FIRST rising edge.
Because the change in the state from A to B should affect other parts ( parallel process ) in the design in the NEXT cycle. From the waveform, If valid = '1' just before CLK_1.
At, CLK_1 all other processes should see state = A | waveform correct
output
state = A
enteredlastcycle = 0
At, CLK_2 all processes start seeing state = B. another parallel
process checks if state = B then it drives ENTERED_STATEB_LASTCYCLE to
be 1 waveform correct output
state = B
enteredlastcycle = 0
Then at CLK_3, waveform correct output
state = B
enteredlastcycle = 1
Do I misunderstand something?
Library IEEE;
use IEEE.std_logic_1164.all;
use IEEE.numeric_std.all;
use work.KDlib.all;
entity nearestPoint is
generic ( ARRAY_WIDTH : integer := 8);
port (
clk: in std_logic;
reset: in std_logic;
inpoint: in kdvector;
valid: in std_logic;
finished: buffer std_logic
);
end nearestPoint;
architecture behave of nearestPoint is
signal state: two_state_type;
signal stateB_entered_lastCycle: std_logic;
begin
process ( clk )
begin
if ( reset = '1' ) then
elsif ( rising_edge(clk) ) then
case state is
when stateA =>
if ( valid = '1' ) then
state <= stateB;
end if;
when stateB =>
when others =>
end case;
end if;
end process;
process(clk)
begin
if ( reset = '1' ) then
elsif ( clk = '1' ) then
case state is
when stateA =>
when stateB =>
stateB_entered_lastCycle <= '1';
when others =>
end case;
end if;
end process;
end behave;
I will give you an explanation through a digital circuit prism. It is a way of thinking that you have to keep in mind when you develop VHDL.
Your valid is at 1 before the clock edge. You are in simulation so you can imagine that all your computations are instant. At the input of your flipflop the new value of your state is already calculated.
I am used to code with only one sequential process and one or more combinational process. Maybe you will understand better with this code with same functionnality than yours (a bit simplified) :
SEQ : process(clk, rst)
begin
if rst = '1' then
current_state <= '0';
elsif rising_edge(clk) then
current_state <= next_state;
end if;
end process SEQ;
Circuit corresponding to this code :
COMB : process(current_state, valid)
begin
next_state <= current_state; -- Default value to ensure that next_state will always be affected
if current_state = '0' and valid = '1' then
next_state <= '1';
end if;
end process COMB;
Circuit correspondint to this code :
If we consider that when valid changes next_state is refreshed instant, current_state (state in your code) goes high on the very next clock rising edge.
Hope you will understand, if you need more precision, don't hesitate to ask, I can edit my post or answer in comments.
Important note : If you have an asynchronous reset in your sequential process, it has to be in sensitivity list.
VHDL has no concept of blocking/non-blocking assignments. There are signals and variables and they are assigned differently.
In your case, you need to remember that simulation runs on a series of delta cycles. 1 delta is an infinitely small space of time, but they happen sequentially. A signal assignment doesn't take effect until the end of the delta, so state = B in the delta cycle after the rising edge of the clock. The 2nd process is sensitive only the clock, so it cannot update stateB_entered_lastcycle until the clock rises again.

VHDL finite state machine counter with start

i pretty new of vhdl and i'm trying to learn how to do a FSM with vhdl.
At moment i need a code that after a fixed count value, it give me back a pulse, in order to start a second FSM block. (I have a recurring signal every 100 kHz, i need to count it and release this signal after a fixed number of counts).
Actually it work as free run, every time that it see this signal, it start to count, but realy i want to add a "start" signal, so it must start to count this signal after it see this start signal.
at moment my working code is:
library IEEE;
use IEEE.STD_LOGIC_1164.ALL;
use IEEE.numeric_std.ALL;
entity counter is
Port (
signal_in : in STD_LOGIC := '0'; --segnale di start
clk : in STD_LOGIC; --clock di ingresso
reset : in STD_LOGIC; --ff reset
signal_out: out STD_LOGIC; --gate in uscita
count_val: in std_logic_vector (7 downto 0);
start : in STD_LOGIC := '0'
);
end counter;
architecture behavioral of counter is
type state_type is (idle, count_up);
signal state : state_type;
begin
process (reset, clk, signal_in, start)
variable index : integer :=0;
variable countlen: integer;
variable count_v: std_logic;
variable countlen2 : std_logic;
begin
countlen := to_integer(unsigned(count_val))-1;
if reset = '1' then
count_v := '0';
index := 0;
state <= idle;
else
--if start = '1' and
--if rising_edge(clk) then
if rising_edge(signal_in) then
case state is
when idle =>
count_v :='0';
index := 0;
if (signal_in = '1') then
state <= count_up;
else
state <= idle;
end if;
when count_up =>
if(index < countlen) then
state <=count_up;
index := index + 1;
elsif
index = countlen then
count_v := '1';
state <=idle;
end if;
when others => null;
end case;
end if;
end if;
signal_out <= count_v;
end process;
end Behavioral;
Any attempt to work with cose with "start = 1" will stop the count.
Please some one have some suggestion?
Kind REgards
Fulvio
Welcome om StackOverflow. Your specification is not 100% clear. What difference do you make between signal_in and start? According to your code and to your explanations, they both seem to act as a starter.
Moreover, there are several strange things with your code:
your process seems to be a synchronous one, with asynchronous reset. Its sensitivity list should contain only the clock and the reset. And its body should be:
process(clk, reset)
<variable declarations>
begin
<NOTHING HERE>
if reset = '1' then
<reset code>
elsif rising_edge(clk) then
<regular code>
end if;
<NOTHING HERE>
end process;
you are using signal_in as a clock and as a logic signal. This is extremely strange. Moreover, your if (signal_in = '1') then is always true (in the synthesis semantics) and thus useless.
You are initializing variables at declaration (index). This is not supported by some synthesizers and hardware targets. Moreover, even when supported, it works only at power up. If:
you intend to synthesize your code,
you want it to be portable across synthesizers and hardware targets,
you want to re-initialize signal and variables not only at power up but also when a reset input is asserted,
prefer a real explicit reset, instead, and guarantee that it is always asserted after power up (or at the beginning of a simulation) for proper first initialization.
you declare variable index with a full integer range, that is, 32 bits minimum, while 8 bits would suffice. This is a potential waste of hardware resources.
It is difficult to propose a solution without a clear and complete specification but assuming you want to count only after start has been asserted and only when signal_in is asserted, the following may be a starting point:
process (clk, reset)
variable index: natural range 0 to 255;
begin
if reset = '1' then
state <= idle;
signal_out <= '0';
index := 0;
elsif rising_edge(clk) then
case state is
when idle =>
signal_out <= '0';
index := 0;
if start = '1' then
state <= count_up;
end if;
when others =>
if signal_in = '1' then
if index = to_integer(unsigned(count_val)) - 1 then
state <= idle;
signal_out <= '1';
else
index := index + 1;
end if;
end if;
end case;
end if;
end process;
Note that this is really synchronous of your clock clk. I suspect that you made a very common mistake: as you wanted to increment your counter when signal_in is asserted you decided more or less to use signal_in as a clock. This is not a real synchronous and safe design. In a real safe synchronous design you do not use logic signals as clocks. You have well identified clocks and you use only these as clocks. In your case there is one single clock: clk. If you want to do something synchronously when a logic signal is asserted, wait for the rising edge of your clock and then test the logic signal and take appropriate actions.
thanks for your support.
Yes the point is that i need to "decimate" (or count) a signal.
This signal had a width of 50-100ns and it repeat itself with a frequency of 100 kHz.
so in my mind, this signal will go in to "signal in". My FPGA is an Actel proasic3 with a clock of 40 MHz.
In my setup this signal will be always on, but i don't want that my FSM will start to count as it see the first "signal in" but only when i send a "start" signal for the number of count that i indicate. (Realy they ask to me the possibility to decimate this signal up to 65000 count, so for sure i need to use a 16bit vector instead of 8bit).
The async reset is here "just in case" i need to reset the whole fsm in the middle of some data record.
Hope to be more clear now what this code should do.
For Old fart, yes indeed all my signal coming outside the fpga will be first synchronized with a simple 2 ff synchronizer with the FPGA clock

Is the use of rising_edge on non-clock signal bad practice? Are there alternatives?

I am working on a VHDL design and I have it working, but the code is pretty ugly and the fact that it seems that I am trying to work around the language's design to accomplish my goal makes me feel like something is wrong. I'm pretty new to VHDL, but I have been working on smaller chunks of the project for nearly a month so I have the general idea. However, This part is a bit more complex.
I need a process that will create a one clock period long pulse (LOAD_PULSE) after the rising edge of a signal (END_ADC), but not until 4 clocks has passed from the latest rising edge of that signal (END_ADC) OR the falling edge of a second signal (LVAL).
To accomplish the wait period, I have built a timer module that counts microseconds and periods, here:
entity uS_generator is
generic(
Frequency : integer := 66 -- Frequency in MHz
);
Port (
CLK : in STD_LOGIC;
RESET : in STD_LOGIC;
T_CNT : out integer range Frequency downto 1 := 1;
uS_CNT : out integer range 65535 downto 0 := 0
);
end uS_generator;
architecture behavior of uS_generator is
signal T_CNT_INT : integer range Frequency downto 1 := 1; -- Counter for 1 uS
signal uS_CNT_INT : integer range 65535 downto 0 := 0;
begin
COUNT: process(CLK, RESET)
begin
if RESET = '1' then
T_CNT_INT <= 1;
uS_CNT_INT <= 0;
elsif rising_edge(CLK) then
if T_CNT_INT = (Frequency - 1) then -- Increment one clock early so last rising edge sees one uS elapsed.
uS_CNT_INT <= uS_CNT_INT + 1;
T_CNT_INT <= T_CNT_INT + 1;
if uS_CNT_INT = 65535 then
uS_CNT_INT <= 0;
end if;
elsif T_CNT_INT = Frequency then
T_CNT_INT <= 1;
else
T_CNT_INT <= T_CNT_INT + 1;
end if;
end if;
end process COUNT;
T_CNT <= T_CNT_INT;
uS_CNT <= uS_CNT_INT;
end behavior;
The processes I'm using for the pulse generation portion of the design are as follows:
loadPulseProc: process(PIXEL_CLK, END_ADC, RESET)
begin
if RESET = '1' then
PULSE_FLAG <= '0';
LOAD_PULSE <= '0';
elsif rising_edge(END_ADC) then
PULSE_FLAG <= '1';
end if;
if rising_edge(PIXEL_CLK) then
if PULSE_FLAG = '1' and END_ADC = '1' and LVAL <= '0' and ADC_TMR_T >= 4 and LVAL_TMR_T >= 4 then
LOAD_PULSE <= '1', '0' after PIXEL_CLK_T;
PULSE_FLAG <= '0';
end if;
end if;
end process loadPulseProc;
ADCTimerProc: process(END_ADC, RESET)
begin
if RESET = '1' then
ADC_TMR_RST <= '1', '0' after PIXEL_CLK_T/10;
end if;
if rising_edge(END_ADC) then
ADC_TMR_RST <= '1', '0' after PIXEL_CLK_T/10;
end if;
if falling_edge(END_ADC) then
ADC_TMR_RST <= '1', '0' after PIXEL_CLK_T/10;
end if;
end process ADCTimerProc;
LVALTimerProc: process(LVAL, RESET)
begin
if RESET = '1' then
LVAL_TMR_RST <= '1', '0' after PIXEL_CLK_T/10;
end if;
if rising_edge(LVAL) then
LVAL_TMR_RST <= '1', '0' after PIXEL_CLK_T/10;
end if;
if falling_edge(LVAL) then
LVAL_TMR_RST <= '1', '0' after PIXEL_CLK_T/10;
end if;
end process LVALTimerProc;
PIXEL_CLK_T is the period of the clock, 15.152 ns.
This design works, simulation shows that it does as I require, but only after significant hassle avoiding errors due to using multiple rising_edge of falling_edge calls by separating them into separate if statements that really should be together. As far as I've read using rising_edge and falling_edge seems to be reserved for clocks only, so is this just bad practice? How can avoid this behavior but still create the same output?
Thanks!
Yes, rising_edge()/falling_edge() should only be used for clock signal. While it works in simulation it can cause problems and unintended hardware in synthesis.
Synthesis tools infer a clock from the function's argument and place such signals/wires on special tracks in the FPGAs (assuming you are targeting an FPGA for your design). The tool will further infer special clock buffers and warn if your input clock pin is not a clock capable pin.
Introducing several clocks can lead to asynchronous designs and make it vulnerable for cross clock faults.
Detecting a rising or falling edge on a signal is done by an edge detection circuit like the following which compares the signal in the previous clock cycle to the current value.
Needed signals:
signal mySignal_d : std_logic := '0';
signal mySignal_re : std_logic;
Needed logic:
mySignal_d <= mySignal when rising_edge(Clock);
mySignal_re <= not mySignal_d and mySignal;
This first line translates to an 1-bit D-flipflop (You could also use a process). The second lines generates a one cycle strobe signal when mySignal changes from low to high. I'm using *_d to indicate a delayed signal of the original input and *_re for rising edge.
The generated signal is still synchronous to Clock.

What is wrong with this design

I have some VHDL code which behaves strangely when synthesized, but I suspect it is my basic understanding of VHDL synthesis which is wrong.
"sync" is a short pulse (about half a clk period), which is high on clk rising edge, but shortly after goes low. During synthesis only some of the signal assignments are assigned on clk rising edge when sync is high.
Do sync need to be high for some minimum period?
process(clk)
begin
if rising_edge(clk) then
if sync = '1' then
a <= '1';
y3 <= y2;
y2 <= y1;
y1 <= y0;
end if;
end if;
...
Only "a" gets its value updated, when synthesized....
I can only guess since you don't show the whole of the process.
Signal do not get updated until after a process is run. So if you are using signals as intermediate variables other signals won't be updated as you expect.
if a is a signal which has value 1 before the process.
process(clk)
...
a <= '0'
a still has value 1 here
....
end process
a's value is now updated to 0

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