Reveal stackframe when frame is not on top most? - xcode

Seems lldb can only use frame variable to introspect variable whether with debug info or on the start of the method call.
But sometimes our code will break on some system or third lib, we may want to introspect the variable or stack. I find a solution for this, Disassemble the frame, read the assemble code and introspect the stack manually.
But I can't find a quick way to get the frame's stack when it's not on the topmost. Any simple way to do this in lldb or in Xcode.
I found a project in github claimed that can dump all stack memory. So can I use some native lldb command to dump the stack memory of a method call?

It sounds to me like the Python API's to lldb will be best suited to the kind of investigation you want to do:
http://lldb.llvm.org/python_reference/index.html
You want the CFA, then, which you can get from the Python API with SBStackFrame.GetCFA(). The CFA (Call Frame Address) will be the stack frame address when the function was entered. From there to the next younger frame's CFA is the stack memory used by this frame.
You can use SBProcess.ReadMemory to get at the memory.

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How did debuggers for 16-bit real mode programs produce stack traces?

I'm messing around with running old DOS programs in an emulator, and I've gotten to the point where I'd like to trace the program's stack. However, I'm running into a problem, specifically how to detect near calls and far calls. Some pretext:
A near call pushes only the IP onto the stack, and is expected to be paired with a ret which pops only the IP to return to.
A far call pushes both the CS and IP onto the stack, and is expected to be paired with a retf which pops both the CS and IP to return to.
There is no way to know whether a call is a near call or a far call, except by knowing which kind of instruction called it, or which return it uses.
Luckily, for the period this program was developed in, BP-based stack frames were very common, so walking the stack doesn't seem to be a problem: I just follow the BP-chain. Unfortunately, getting the CS and/or IP is difficult, because there doesn't seem to be any way for me to determine whether a call is a near call or a far call by looking at the stack alone.
I have metadata about functions available, so I can tell whether a function is a near or far call if I already know the actual CS and IP, but I can't figure out the IP and CS unless I already know if it's a far call or near call.
I'm having a little success by just guessing and seeing if my guess results in a valid function lookup, but I think this method will produce a lot of false positives.
So my question is this: How did debuggers of the DOS era deal with this problem and produce stack traces? Is there some algorithm for this I'm missing, or did they just encode debug information in the stack? (If this is the case, then I'll have to come up with something else.)
Just a guess, I've never actually used 16-bit x86 development tools (modern or back in the day):
You know the CS:IP value of the current function (or one that triggered a fault or whatever from an exception frame).
You might have metadata that tells you whether this is a "far" function that's called with a far call or not. Or you could attempt decoding until you get to a retn or retf, and use that to decide whether the return address is a near IP or a far CS:IP.
(Assuming this is a normal function that returns with some kind of ret. Or if it ends with a jmp tailcall to another function, then the return address probably matches that, but that's another level of assumptions. And figuring out that a near jmp is the end of a function instead of just a jump within a large function is am ambiguous problem without any symbol metadata.)
But anyway, apply the same thing to the parent function: after one level of successful backtracing, you now have the CS:IP of the instruction after the call in your parent function, and the SS:BP value of the BP linked list.
And BTW, yes there's a very good reason for legacy BP stack frames being widely used: [SP] isn't a valid 16-bit addressing mode, and only [BP] as a base implies SS as a segment, so yes, using BP for access to the stack was the only good option for random access (not just push/pop for temporaries). No reason not to save/restore it first (before any other registers or reserving stack space) to make a conventional stack-frame.

How do symbols solve walking the stack with FPO in x86 debugging?

In this answer: https://stackoverflow.com/a/8646611/192359 , it is explained that when debugging x86 code, symbols allow the debugger to display the callstack even when FPO (Frame Pointer Omission) is used.
The given explanation is:
On the x86 PDBs contain FPO information, which allows the debugger to reliably unwind a call stack.
My question is what's this information? As far as I understand, just knowing whether a function has FPO or not does not help you finding the original value of the stack pointer, since that depends on runtime information.
What am I missing here?
Fundamentally, it is always possible to walk the stack with enough information1, except in cases where the stack or execution context has been irrecoverably corrupted.
For example, even if rbp isn't used as the frame pointer, the return address is still on the stack somewhere, and you just need to know where. For a function that doesn't modify rsp (indirectly or directly) in the body of the function it would be at a simple fixed offset from rsp. For functions that modify rsp in the body of the function (i.e., that have a variable stack size), the offset from rsp might depend on the exact location in the function.
The PDB file simply contains this "side band" information which allows someone to determine the return address for any instruction in the function. Hans linked a relevant in-memory structure above - you can see that since it knows the size of the local variables and so on it can calculate the offset between rsp and the base of the frame, and hence get at the return address. It also knows how many instruction bytes are part of the "prolog" which is important because if the IP is still in that region, different rules apply (i.e., the stack hasn't been adjusted to reflect the locals in this function yet).
In 64-bit Windows, the exact function call ABI has been made a bit more concrete, and all functions generally have to provide unwind information: not in a .pdb but directly in a section included in the binary. So even without .pdb files you should be able to unwind a properly structured 64-bit Windows program. It allows any register to be used as the frame pointer, and still allows frame-pointer omission (with some restrictions). For details, start here.
1 If this weren't true, ask yourself how the currently running function could ever return? Now, technically you could design a program which clobbers or forgets the stack in a way that it cannot return, and either never exits or uses a method like exit() or abort() to terminate. This is highly unusual and not possibly outside of assembly.

Useless stack trace in SetUnhandledExceptionFilter handler

I've been using SetUnhandledExceptionFilter for a long time, and my handler walks the stack and uses dbghelp.dll to convert the addresses into File/Line references. It then writes that to a log file and puts up a dialog with the same information for the user. This USED to work just fine. These days however I'm getting a completely useless stack:
1004bbaa: Lgid.dll, C:\Data\Code\Lgi\trunk\src\win32\Lgi\LgiException.cpp:175
10057de0: Lgid.dll, C:\Data\Code\Lgi\trunk\src\win32\Lgi\GApp.cpp:107
7c864191: kernel32.dll, UnhandledExceptionFilter+0x1c7
102158ed: MSVCRTD.dll, winxfltr.c:228
006dc1a7: Scribe.exe, crtexe.c:345
7c817077: kernel32.dll, RegisterWaitForInputIdle+0x49
00000000: Scribe.exe
Where 'Scribe.exe' is my application. Now if I walk the debugger from the exception handler back up the stack several frames I eventually get to a completely different temporary stack that actually includes all the calls that led up to the crash. Which is the information I actually want to log for the user. It's as if the exception handler is executing on a separate stack from the main application.
What I need is the stack information for the actual application stack, that includes all the calls leading up to the crash. Is there some easy way to get that from inside the exception handler?
According to http://www.eptacom.net/pubblicazioni/pub_eng/except.html I can get the exception's EIP and EBP out of the EXCEPTION_POINTERS 'Context' member. So I tried passing that EBP to my stack walker as it's initial point and it could then walk the application stack correctly. As long as I put the EIP as the first point in the stack walk I get the whole thing.
Are you using x64? Could you be hitting http://blog.paulbetts.org/index.php/2010/07/20/the-case-of-the-disappearing-onload-exception-user-mode-callback-exceptions-in-x64/ ?

Relation Between Program/Instruction Pointer(RIP) and Base/Frame Pointer(RBP) on 64 bit Linux

i need some help on retrieving Instruction pointers(RIP) of a call stack on Linux 64 bit machine. i can traverse the Stack using ptrace and retrieve all Frame/Base pointer(RBP) values. but as i want IP values, what is the arithmetic and conceptual relationship between RIP and RBP. i assume that RIP value is stored at (RBP + 8) location and a can read it using ptrace PEEKDATA. is my assumption correct?
Any return address pushed on the stack will only get you the %rip starting after the currently running function returns, not the %rip of the currently executing function. You should be able to get your hands on the current %rip the same way GDB does:
Ideally, your platform supports the PTRACE_GETREGS or PTRACE_GETREGSET argument. Your manpage and the header file should get you the rest of the way from here.
Failing that, you should be able to use the PTRACE_PEEKUSER argument with the appropriate offset to grab the register from the user area.
You can look at the gorey details in gdb/amd64-linux-nat.c in the GDB source tree.

Viewing registers in a crash dump

Is there a way to view the register contents in each stack frame in a crash dump?
The registers window seems to contain the registers when the exception occurred but it would be useful to be able to see their contents in each stack frame.
Depending on the calling convention, you can get some of the registers which are saved on the stack. For example, in the cdecl calling convention, all of the registers except for EAX, ECX, and EDX are required to be saved, either by the caller or the callee. Those three registers are clobberable, so you generally won't be able to get their values from higher up in the call stack. If a function doesn't use a register that must be saved, then it won't save it, but since it doesn't use it, that register has the same value in the next higher stack frame.
After doing some research and thinking about this a bit, I realized that it is probably not possible. A crash minidump saves certain areas of process memory (depending on the flags passed to the MiniDumpWriteDump() function) and enough state information to re-create the environment where the crash happened in a debugger. It does not have the processor state at each instruction or even at each stack frame, it only knows about the processor state when the exception occurred.
In optimized builds, it's true that some information down the stack may get tossed, however, you can ask the debugger to try and show you the information for a given stack frame. First do "kn" to see the stack with frame numbers, then try ".frame /c [frame]" or ".frame /r [frame]".
Check out the help (".hh") for more information.
I don't think you can get it either when debugging. The only value you can get from registers is their value at the current instruction.

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