I need to communicate with some batteries ( BT-70791CK from BrenTronics). They use SMBus ver 1.1 for communication, but in datasheet of the batteries there is no information about the SMBus address they have or the baudrate. I asked them and they told me that this is the only document that they have. So I started to think that maybe I do not need to know SMBus addresses or baudrate for SMBus communication. My questions are
Can I still communicate with devices that use SMBus ver 1.1. without knowing their addresses or baudrates?
Is there any specific baudrate or SMBus address for batteries or for SMBus ver1.1?
In Case you or others are looking for these answers I will post a few links and a short description regarding the Smart Battery Data Specification v1.1 and System Management Bus (SMBus) v1.1.
Battery Address (Bren Tronics == 0x16) -> LinkMissing || I have seen a sheet with standard addresses for charger, battery, and other devices, but I can't seem to find it. Feel free to comment the link in YOU know where to find this and I will add it to the link above.
Smart Battery Data -> Here || This contains all the values/codes you can read/write to a smart battery that complies with SMBus v1.1. It also contains a small introduction on how you read / write to the battery, SMBus functions like Read Block or Read Word. To save some time, pay attention to the exceptions on how you read data from the Battery. almost all "codes" allows you to read a value from 2 bytes + CRC8 (3 bytes total, if your software will utilize a CRC8 check)
SMBus v1.1 -> Here || Smart battery data will show battery related operations, but it uses SMBus (Very close to I2C, but some important differences!) To implement Smart Battery Functions, you will need to understand SMBus and how I2C works.
I2C -> Here || Have a question about I2C? I strongly recommend this web page.
Bren Tronics Implementing the SMBus -> Here || This contains the most common mistakes when implementing SMBus. pay close attention to the maximum distance from master->slave without repeaters or other more clever ways to provide pull-up Voltage.
If any link is broken or for some reason the specification sheets is taken down from the "WWW". Tag me in the post, I do have the PDF-files stored offline.
If you need to find addresses on I2C, the RaspberryPI 3b+ has I2C GPIO.
As long as you have the correct pull-up resistance, you can do like I have, and find the battery address using RPI.
Another thread on RaspberryPI + i2cDetect("AddressFinder") -> Here
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Is it possible to send out a custom message frame on I2C dev from Linux? I am using an i.MX7D board and i would like to use "/dev/i2c-0" device like a simple "serial tty" to "write(fd, bytes, count)". My goal is to send out a single byte for example 0xAB on I2C without any specific slave address and without automatic stop/start bit inserting in my frame.
So i like to make my full custom I2C frame then send it out from Linux. Is it possible, is there any user-space programing techniques in C/C++, Python or any API for it in Linux?
No you can't, because this is limited by the hardware, if you are using the I2c interface, the hardware will limit what you can do.
One way to try is that you can use gpio to simulate i2c or any interface you want to. Many chips support setting the i2c interface to gpio, then you simulate a clock with one gpio, and simulate high and low level with another gpio.
But I don't recommend it, because if you don't follow the i2c protocol, you can't communicate with other i2c devices
Connect two GPIO lines to the I2C bus in addition to the I2C interface. Normally, these will stay tri-stated. When you need to send the magic byte, enable them to send clock and data, then disable them. These won't interfere with I2C, which only drives the bus when transmitting.
First of all, I would say to you that I write this question from nothing because I have attempt to find good documentation but nothing stand out...
What happens when we squeeze a key?
I think this is complex but I hope you can help me.
What I search to know : all (but especially the program start on the host machine and how the key electric signal is encoded and send...)
The eXtensible Host Controller (xHC) has a Periodic Transfer Ring. Windows programs this ring to trigger a transfer every time an interval in milliseconds has passed. The right interval is specified in the USB descriptor returned by the USB device. When the transfer occurs, the xHC puts a Transfer Event TRB on the event ring and triggers an MSI-X interrupt which bypasses the IOAPIC as some kind of inter-processor interrupt. If Windows detects some change in the keys pressed, it will send a message to the application which currently has focus (calling the window's procedure) with the key pressed in one of the argument.
I don't know about electrical signals but I know the eXtensible Host Controller is the USB controller responsible to interact with USB on modern Windows systems. Since Windows nowadays requires an x64 processor, the xHC must be present on your motherboard. The xHC is a PCI-Express device which is compliant with the PCI-Express specification.
To find an xHC, you:
Find the RSDP ACPI table in RAM;
This table will be found by the UEFI firmware which acts as some kind of small operating-system (OS) during boot of the computer. Then, the OS developers will write a small UEFI application named bootx64.efi that they will place on a FAT32 partition on the hard-disk. They will place this app in the /boot/efi directory. The UEFI firmware will directly launch that application on boot of the computer which allows to have an OS which doesn't require user input to be launched (similarly to how it used to work with the legacy BIOS fetching the first sector of the hard-disk and executing the instructions found there).
The UEFI application is compiled in practice with either EDK2 or gnu-efi. These compilers are aware of the UEFI environment and specification. They thus compile the code to system calls that are present during boot and available for the UEFI application written by the OS developers. The System Tables (often the ACPI tables) are given as an argument to the "main" function (often called UefiMain) called by the UEFI firmware in the UEFI application. The code of the application can thus simply use these arguments to find the RSDP table and pass it to the OS.
Find the MCFG ACPI table using the RSDP;
The chain of table is RSDP -> XSDT -> MCFG. Once the OS found the MCFG, this table specifies the base address of the PCI configuration space. To interact with PCI devices you use memory mapped IO (MMIO). You write to some position in RAM and it will instead write to the registers of the PCI devices. The MCFG thus specifies the base address at which you will start finding MMIO registers for the different PCI devices that are plugged into the computer.
Iterate on the PCI devices and look at their IDs until you find an xHC.
To iterate on the PCI devices, the PCI convention specifies a formula which is the following:
UINT64 physical_address = base_address + ((bus - first_bus) << 20 | device << 15 | function << 12);
The base_address is for a specific segment group. Each segment group can have 256 buses (suitable for large servers or large computers with lots of components). There can be up to 65536 segment groups and each can have up to 256 PCI buses. Each PCI bus can have up to 32 devices plugged onto it and each device can have up to 8 functions. Each function can also be a PCI bridge. This is quite straightforward to understand because the terminology is clear. The bus here is an actual serial bus that the PCI devices (like a network card, a graphics card, an xHC, an AHCI, etc.) use to communicate with RAM. The function is a functionality of the PCI device like controlling USB devices, hard-disks, HDMI screens (for graphics cards), etc. The PCI bridge bridges a PCI bus to another PCI bus. It means you can have almost an infinite amount of devices with the PCI specification because the bridges allow to extend the tree of devices by adding other PCI host controllers.
Meanwhile, the bus is simply a number between 0 and 255. The first bus is specified in the MCFG ACPI table for a specific segment group. The device is a number between 0 and 31 and the function is a number between 0 and 7. This formula returns a physical address which points to a conventional configuration space (it is the same for all functions) which has specific registers. These registers are used to determine what is the type of device and to load a proper driver for it. Each function of each device thus gets a configuration space.
For the xHC, there will be only one function and the IDs returned by its configuration space will be 0x0C for the class ID and 0x03 for the subclass ID (https://wiki.osdev.org/EXtensible_Host_Controller_Interface).
Once you found an xHC, it gets rather complex. You need to initialize it and get the USB devices which are plugged in the computer at the current moment. You need to take several steps to get the xHC operational. For this part, I'll leave you to read the xHCI specification which (on chapter 4) specifies exactly the steps which need to be taken (https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/technical-specifications/extensible-host-controler-interface-usb-xhci.pdf).
For the keyboard portion I'll leave you to read one of my answer on the stackexchange for computer science: https://cs.stackexchange.com/questions/141870/when-are-a-controllers-registers-loaded-and-ready-to-inform-an-i-o-operation/141918#141918.
Some good links:
https://wiki.osdev.org/Universal_Serial_Bus
https://wiki.osdev.org/PCI
I just started with microchip world.
I'm about to buy a PicKit3 and i've seen it can outputs from 1.8V to 14V MCLR.
The pic i will use is the PIC16F1829 and it should work with MCLR # 5V.
In the datasheet it seems i would need a zener/shunt to limit the voltage.
First of all isn't there a board ready to play with?
Can i use LVP? If so using MPLab 8 IDE how do i change in LVP?
Is the pin connection the same?
Since i haven't bought it yet i would rather avoid burning a pic
Regards,
Notes at the bottom of page 345 in the PIC16F1829 data sheet (DS40001440E) recommends using a voltage limit circuit when using the ICD2 device programmer.
According to Microchip this is "not required" when using the PICkit3.
Get a few extra PIC16F1829 just in case.
You ask about boards ready to use, take a look at the Curisotiy Nano boards
https://www.microforum.cc/topic/9-microchip-xpress-evaluation-boards
These are ready to use and do not need any programmer. You can simply send a file to these devices over USB. They are also have debugging capability.
In terms of the 14V on MCLR, the device is designed to handle whatever pulse will be generated by the PICkit3, so you do not need any protection for the PIC against that. In fact limiting the voltage on that pin will prevent the device from programming so you definitely do not want to do that. If you are however using this pin to connect to other parts on your board the other parts probably will need protection.
You can most definitely use LVP, just be careful, it is possible to use LVP to disable LVP, and then the only way to get it back on is to use HVP!
Lastly in the IDE under programming options you can change the mode there (Use low voltage programming mode entry)
In the IDE i've set the voltage appropriately and everything went ok on its own.
I didn't have to enable anything fancy
Coming form this question yesterday, I decided to port this library to my board. I was aware that I needed to change something, so I compiled the library, call it on a small program and see what happens. The 1st problem is here:
// Check for GPIO and peripheral addresses from device tree.
// Adapted from code in the RPi.GPIO library at:
// http://sourceforge.net/p/raspberry-gpio-python/
FILE *fp = fopen("/proc/device-tree/soc/ranges", "rb");
if (fp == NULL) {
return MMIO_ERROR_OFFSET;
}
This lib is aimed for Rpi, os the structure of the system on my board is not the same. So I was wondering if somebody could tell me where I could find this file or how it looks like so I can find it by my self in order to proceed the job.
Thanks.
You don't necessarily want that "file" (or more precisely /proc node).
The code this is found in is setting up to do direct memory mapped I/O using what appears to be a pi-specific gpio-flavored version of the /dev/mem type of device driver for exposing hardware special function registers to userspace.
To port this to your board, you would need to first determine if there is a /dev/mem or similar capability in your kernel which you can activate. Then you would need to determine the appropriate I/O registers for GPIO pins. The pi-specific code is reading the Device Tree to figure this out, but there are other ways, for example you can manually read the programmer's manual of the SoC on which you are running.
Another approach you can consider is adding some small microcontroller (or yes, barebones ***duino) to the system, and using that to collect information from various sensors and peripherals. This can then be forwarded to the SoC over a UART link, or queried out via I2C or similar - add a small amount of cost and some degree of bottleneck, but also means that the software on the SoC then becomes very portable - to a different comparable chip, or perhaps even to run on a desktop PC during development.
I want to learn and implement CAN BUS protocol. I have implemented UART,SPI,I2C and One Wire Bus protocol using MSP430 Launchpad in software. Now I want to learn about CAN Bus protocol. I have mBed LPC 1768 Cortex M3 Development board. mBed has Can Bus Library but I want to write my own library so that I can learn it in detail, i.e. the way I did for other communication protocols.
I am not able to find suitable resources to start with and the material appears to be scattered on net. Can any one guide how do i write and implement CAN Bus protocol with the development boards available with me.
Thanks
Developing CAN library is relatively easy as compared to I2C or SPI. This is because CAN Controller of your Cortex will take care of most of complex things.
To transmit the data, You have to write ID and Data in designated registers and set bit to transmit data.
This Application note from NXP can be very useful for you.
I would recommend you to implement following functions:
InitCAN - This should set specified Baud Rate of CAN.
SetFilters - Most CAN Controllers come with Acceptance Filters, So it's good to have that
SendData - Make sure you accept Parameters like ID_Type and RTRs etc.
RecieveData - This can be blocking or Interrupt based.
Before beginning, do read CAN Basics to understand. Application notes AN713 and AN754 from Microchip is a good source. Also Vector's site and Wikipedia Article.
Plus, You can always post your doubts here or on Electronics.StackExchange.com :)
Okay so this post is quite old but people may look at it again so:
First of all Can bus is not user friendly protocol like USART or IC2 at all so you have to be very precise about your can bit timing there are tools for that but I suggest you to calculate them by hand. For a microcontroller I would suggest STM32 and be away from PIC series in my opinion. If it's only CAN-BUS without higher level protocols such as SAE J1939, steps are pretty simple and straight forward:
1)Initialize Can
2)Put CAN to configuration mode and remember that you can set baudrate, mask and filters only in configuration mode!
3) Set the baud rate registers.
4) Set the mask and filters. If you need to receive all messages just simply set mask to 0x00. Then filter will be do not care.
5) Set the CAN to the normal or loopback mode. (loopback mode is used for debugging purposes mostly.)
Some remarkable points people try to implement can at the beginning may miss:
*** You need at least 2 working CAN nodes for successfull transmission. (of course with matching baud rate). So if you want to send some data via CAN with 1 node it will not be succesfull. Because your transmitter node will not receive ACK.
*** Most likely you will need a CAN tranciever. Do not forget to put a 100 ohm or similar value resistor between Tx and Rx pins of your tranciever.
I used the software canking to talk to a mcp25050 when I learned how to implement can protocol using an hcs12 dragonboard. It helped a lot because canking will initialize everything for you when u go on the bus and all you have to do is learn how to write and recieve. If you want to learn how to initialize the steps are:
Enables can bus by setting bit on CAN Control Register 1
Enable can initialization Control Register 0
wait until can bus is in initialization mode by checking control register 1 bit
Enables can bus by setting bit on CAN Control Register 1 again and set clock source - Ethier bus clock or eclock
set prescaler baudrate and Tq with Bus timing register
set sample time and prop_seg1, prop_seg2, and phase_seg
set acceptance id on Identifier acceptance register 0-3 or 0-7 - to set your can to recieve everything set those to 00 because when doing a compare the can bus does a ones complement compare with the id coming in
set Identifier mask register 0-3 or 0-7, if you want to not care about any of the bits set them all to FF
set identifier acceptance control register to 32 bit extended or 11 bit - i use 32
set Control Register 0 back to normal mode
wait until bus is normal mode by checking Control Register 1
after this you can start changing registers or reading data to do this you must select the empty can buffer, write your id to write or request data, and then input the address, mask, and value in the 3 transmitter registers if writing and then specify the dlc (3 if writing and 8-1 if reading). to transmit the id and data you then have to set the can transmit flag to equal the can Transmit buffer selection.
** depending on what id you use bit shifting can be tedious so if you are having a problem I would suggest debugging and looking at what your Transmit buffer selection registers are holding. I had this error because i did not shift correctly when i was sending messages to the mcp25050
If your MCU supports CAN Bus, you should start from the related datasheet.