I am building a web application using .NET 3.5 (ASP.NET, SQL Server, C#, WCF, WF, etc) and I have run into a major design dilemma. This is a uni project btw, but it is 100% up to me what I develop.
I need to design a system whereby I can take an image and automatically crop a certain object within it, without user input. So for example, cut out the car in a picture of a road. I've given this a lot of thought, and I can't see any feasible method. I guess this thread is to discuss the issues and feasibility of achieving this goal. Eventually, I would get the dimensions of a car (or whatever it may be), and then pass this into a 3d modelling app (custom) as parameters, to render a 3d model. This last step is a lot more feasible. It's the cropping issue which is an issue. I have thought of all sorts of ideas, like getting the colour of the car and then the outline around that colour. So if the car (example) is yellow, when there is a yellow pixel in the image, trace around it. But this would fail if there are two yellow cars in a photo.
Ideally, I would like the system to be completely automated. But I guess I can't have everything my way. Also, my skills are in what I mentioned above (.NET 3.5, SQL Server, AJAX, web design) as opposed to C++ but I would be open to any solution just to see the feasibility.
I also found this patent: US Patent 7034848 - System and method for automatically cropping graphical images
Thanks
This is one of the problems that needed to be solved to finish the DARPA Grand Challenge. Google video has a great presentation by the project lead from the winning team, where he talks about how they went about their solution, and how some of the other teams approached it. The relevant portion starts around 19:30 of the video, but it's a great talk, and the whole thing is worth a watch. Hopefully it gives you a good starting point for solving your problem.
What you are talking about is an open research problem, or even several research problems. One way to tackle this, is by image segmentation. If you can safely assume that there is one object of interest in the image, you can try a figure-ground segmentation algorithm. There are many such algorithms, and none of them are perfect. They usually output a segmentation mask: a binary image where the figure is white and the background is black. You would then find the bounding box of the figure, and use it to crop. The thing to remember is that none of the existing segmentation algorithm will give you what you want 100% of the time.
Alternatively, if you know ahead of time what specific type of object you need to crop (car, person, motorcycle), then you can try an object detection algorithm. Once again, there are many, and none of them are perfect either. On the other hand, some of them may work better than segmentation if your object of interest is on very cluttered background.
To summarize, if you wish to pursue this, you would have to read a fair number of computer vision papers, and try a fair number of different algorithms. You will also increase your chances of success if you constrain your problem domain as much as possible: for example restrict yourself to a small number of object categories, assume there is only one object of interest in an image, or restrict yourself to a certain type of scenes (nature, sea, etc.). Also keep in mind, that even the accuracy of state-of-the-art approaches to solving this type of problems has a lot of room for improvement.
And by the way, the choice of language or platform for this project is by far the least difficult part.
A method often used for face detection in images is through the use of a Haar classifier cascade. A classifier cascade can be trained to detect any objects, not just faces, but the ability of the classifier is highly dependent on the quality of the training data.
This paper by Viola and Jones explains how it works and how it can be optimised.
Although it is C++ you might want to take a look at the image processing libraries provided by the OpenCV project which include code to both train and use Haar cascades. You will need a set of car and non-car images to train a system!
Some of the best attempts I've see of this is using a large database of images to help understand the image you have. These days you have flickr, which is not only a giant corpus of images, but it's also tagged with meta-information about what the image is.
Some projects that do this are documented here:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/emergingtech/?p=629
Start with analyzing the images yourself. That way you can formulate the criteria on which to match the car. And you get to define what you cannot match.
If all cars have the same background, for example, it need not be that complex. But your example states a car on a street. There may be parked cars. Should they be recognized?
If you have access to MatLab, you could test your pattern recognition filters with specialized software like PRTools.
Wwhen I was studying (a long time ago:) I used Khoros Cantata and found that an edge filter can simplify the image greatly.
But again, first define the conditions on the input. If you don't do that you will not succeed because pattern recognition is really hard (think about how long it took to crack captcha's)
I did say photo, so this could be a black car with a black background. I did think of specifying the colour of the object, and then when that colour is found, trace around it (high level explanation). But, with a black object in a black background (no constrast in other words), it would be a very difficult task.
Better still, I've come across several sites with 3d models of cars. I could always use this, stick it into a 3d model, and render it.
A 3D model would be easier to work with, a real world photo much harder. It does suck :(
If I'm reading this right... This is where AI shines.
I think the "simplest" solution would be to use a neural-network based image recognition algorithm. Unless you know that the car will look the exact same in each picture, then that's pretty much the only way.
If it IS the exact same, then you can just search for the pixel pattern, and get the bounding rectangle, and just set the image border to the inner boundary of the rectangle.
I think that you will never get good results without a real user telling the program what to do. Think of it this way: how should your program decide when there is more than 1 interesting object present (for example: 2 cars)? what if the object you want is actually the mountain in the background? what if nothing of interest is inside the picture, thus nothing to select as the object to crop out? etc, etc...
With that said, if you can make assumptions like: only 1 object will be present, then you can have a go with using image recognition algorithms.
Now that I think of it. I recently got a lecture about artificial intelligence in robots and in robotic research techniques. Their research went on about language interaction, evolution, and language recognition. But in order to do that they also needed some simple image recognition algorithms to process the perceived environment. One of the tricks they used was to make a 3D plot of the image where x and y where the normal x and y axis and the z axis was the brightness of that particular point, then they used the same technique for red-green values, and blue-yellow. And lo and behold they had something (relatively) easy they could use to pick out the objects from the perceived environment.
(I'm terribly sorry, but I can't find a link to the nice charts they had that showed how it all worked).
Anyway, the point is that they were not interested (that much) in image recognition so they created something that worked good enough and used something less advanced and thus less time consuming, so it is possible to create something simple for this complex task.
Also any good image editing program has some kind of magic wand that will select, with the right amount of tweaking, the object of interest you point it on, maybe it's worth your time to look into that as well.
So, it basically will mean that you:
have to make some assumptions, otherwise it will fail terribly
will probably best be served with techniques from AI, and more specifically image recognition
can take a look at paint.NET and their algorithm for their magic wand
try to use the fact that a good photo will have the object of interest somewhere in the middle of the image
.. but i'm not saying that this is the solution for your problem, maybe something simpler can be used.
Oh, and I will continue to look for those links, they hold some really valuable information about this topic, but I can't promise anything.
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I'm a novice at ML but I'm trying to create a model to detect a few objects in my custom photos. Before training my model, I'd like to know if and how I should modify my images to improve its accuracy.
I don't have access to the photos at the moment, however, I can provide an example of the characteristics of the images I'll be working with:
There's a white piece of paper (so white background), and on it are a bunch of insects.
There are a few different kinds of insects, and they look unique from eachother (different colors, shapes, sizes etc.).
The camera is pretty zoomed out, so each insect is probably ~ 40x40 pixels (so it's not really high definition).
I don't know much about machine learning, but I'd assume that because the insects will be captured in low quality, the model will mainly end up relying on the general shape and color to distinguish/identify the insects (e.g. long or circular spot on photo, etc.).
Therefore, I was wondering if I should do anything to to the photos to achieve higher accuracy (before I train it). For example, if I increase the contrast in my photos, would the insect's borders be more defined and thus make it easier for the model to detect/identify them? Or, should I convert the images to grayscale or stick with RGB? Are there any other factors that should be considered? Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Edit: I'm not sure why someone voted to close this as opinion-based, however, I'm not asking for an opinion. I'm trying to understand more about image-detection process by learning what constitutes a "good" photo versus a "bad" one. Even though this sounds like it's opinion-based, it's not. For example, I'm sure having extremely low-light photos would be terrible for training models. This wouldn't be an opinion, but a evidence-based fact.
Similarly, I'd like to learn what kinds of general characteristics make "better" photos, such as if I should use high contrast, brightness, etc. I think this is an answerable question that is not opinion-based.
You an employ standard preprocessing strategy like
Normalization of the RGB values
Horizontal/Vertical flipping
Affine transformation
P.s. it is more of comment than answer (I can't put comments)
I have an idea for an app that takes a printed page with four squares in each corner and allows you to measure objects on the paper given at least two squares are visible. I want to be able to have a user take a picture from less than perfect angles and still have the objects be measured accurately.
I'm unable to figure out exactly how to find information on this subject due to my lack of knowledge in the area. I've been able to find examples of opencv code that does some interesting transforms and the like but I've yet to figure out what I'm asking in simpler terms.
Does anyone know of papers or mathematical concepts I can lookup to get further into this project?
I'm not quite sure how or who to ask other than people on this forum, sorry for the somewhat vague question.
What you describe is very reminiscent of augmented reality marker tracking. Maybe you can start by searching these words on a search engine of your choice.
A single marker, if done correctly, can be used to identify it without confusing it with other markers AND to determine how the surface is placed in 3D space in front of the camera.
But that's all very difficult and advanced stuff, I'd greatly advise to NOT try and implement something like this, it would take years of research... The only way you have is to use a ready-made open source library that outputs the data you need for your app.
It may even not exist. In that case you'll have to buy one. Given the niché of your problem that would be perfectly plausible.
Here I give you only the programming aspect and if you want you can find out about the mathematical aspect from those examples. Most of the functions you need can be done using OpenCV. Here are some examples in python:
To detect the printed paper, you can use cv2.findContours function. The most outer contour is possibly the paper, but you need to test on actual images. https://docs.opencv.org/3.1.0/d4/d73/tutorial_py_contours_begin.html
In case of sloping (not in perfect angle), you can find the angle by cv2.minAreaRect which return the angle of the contour you found above. https://docs.opencv.org/3.1.0/dd/d49/tutorial_py_contour_features.html (part 7b).
If you want to rotate the paper, use cv2.warpAffine. https://docs.opencv.org/3.0-beta/doc/py_tutorials/py_imgproc/py_geometric_transformations/py_geometric_transformations.html
To detect the object in the paper, there are some methods. The easiest way is using the contours above. If the objects are in certain colors, you can detect it by using color filter. https://opencv-python-tutroals.readthedocs.io/en/latest/py_tutorials/py_imgproc/py_colorspaces/py_colorspaces.html
I am studying neural networks, or more specifically image classification at the moment. While I was reading, I was wondering if the following has ever been done/ is doable. If anybody could point me to some sources or ideas, I'd appreciate it!
In a traditional neural network, you have a training data set of images and the weights of the neurons in the network. The goal is to optimize the weights so that the classification of the images is accurate for training data and new images is as good as possible.
I was wondering if you could reverse this:
Given a neural network and the weights to its neurons, generate a set of images corresponding to the classes that the network separates, i.e., a proto-type of the kinds of images this specific network is able to classify well.
In my mind it would work as follows (I'm sure this is not quite achievable, but just to get the idea across):
Imagine a neural network that is able to classify images containing labels cat, dog and neither of those.
What I want is the "inverse", i.e. an image of a cat, an image of a dog and one that is "furthest away" from the other two classes.
I think that this could be done by generating images and minimizing the loss function for one specific class, while maximizing it for all other classes at the same time.
Is this kind of how Google Deep Dream visualizes what it is "dreaming"?
I hope it is clear what I mean, if not I will answer any questions.
Is this kind of how Google Deep Dream visualizes what it is "dreaming"?
Pretty much, it seems, at least that's how the people behind it explain it:
One way to visualize what goes on [in a neural network layer] is to turn the network upside down and ask it to enhance an input image in such a way as to elicit a particular interpretation. Say you want to know what sort of image would result in “Banana.” Start with an image full of random noise, then gradually tweak the image towards what the neural net considers a banana (see related work [...]). By itself, that doesn’t work very well, but it does if we impose a prior constraint that the image should have similar statistics to natural images, such as neighboring pixels needing to be correlated.
Source - The whole blog post is worth reading.
I think you can understand the mainstream approach from Karpathy's blog:
http://karpathy.github.io/2015/03/30/breaking-convnets/
Normal ConvNet training: "What happens to the score of the correct class when I wiggle this parameter?"
Creating fooling images: "What happens to the score of (whatever class you want) when I wiggle this pixel?"
Fooling the classifier with an image is very close to what you ask. For your goal you need to add some regularization to your loss function to avoid fully misleading results - the absolute minimum loss can be very distorted picture.
I 'm trying to find an efficient way of acceptable complexity to
detect an object in an image so I can isolate it from its surroundings
segment that object to its sub-parts and label them so I can then fetch them at will
It's been 3 weeks since I entered the image processing world and I've read about so many algorithms (sift, snakes, more snakes, fourier-related, etc.), and heuristics that I don't know where to start and which one is "best" for what I'm trying to achieve. Having in mind that the image dataset in interest is a pretty large one, I don't even know if I should use some algorithm implemented in OpenCV or if I should implement one my own.
Summarize:
Which methodology should I focus on? Why?
Should I use OpenCV for that kind of stuff or is there some other 'better' alternative?
Thank you in advance.
EDIT -- More info regarding the datasets
Each dataset consists of 80K images of products sharing the same
concept e.g. t-shirts, watches, shoes
size
orientation (90% of them)
background (95% of them)
All pictures in each datasets look almost identical apart from the product itself, apparently. To make things a little more clear, let's consider only the 'watch dataset':
All the pictures in the set look almost exactly like this:
(again, apart form the watch itself). I want to extract the strap and the dial. The thing is that there are lots of different watch styles and therefore shapes. From what I've read so far, I think I need a template algorithm that allows bending and stretching so as to be able to match straps and dials of different styles.
Instead of creating three distinct templates (upper part of strap, lower part of strap, dial), it would be reasonable to create only one and segment it into 3 parts. That way, I would be confident enough that each part was detected with respect to each other as intended to e.g. the dial would not be detected below the lower part of the strap.
From all the algorithms/methodologies I've encountered, active shape|appearance model seem to be the most promising ones. Unfortunately, I haven't managed to find a descent implementation and I'm not confident enough that that's the best approach so as to go ahead and write one myself.
If anyone could point out what I should be really looking for (algorithm/heuristic/library/etc.), I would be more than grateful. If again you think my description was a bit vague, feel free to ask for a more detailed one.
From what you've said, here are a few things that pop up at first glance:
Simplest thing to do it binarize the image and do Connected Components using OpenCV or CvBlob library. For simple images with non-complex background this usually yeilds objects
HOwever, looking at your sample image, texture-based segmentation techniques may work better - the watch dial, the straps and the background are wisely variant in texture/roughness, and this could be an ideal way to separate them.
The roughness of a portion can be easily found by the Eigen transform (explained a bit on SO, check the link to the research paper provided there), then the Mean Shift filter can be applied on the output of the Eigen transform. This will give regions clearly separated according to texture. Both the pyramidal Mean Shift and finding eigenvalues by SVD are implemented in OpenCV, so unless you can optimize your own code its better (and easier) to use inbuilt functions (if present) as far as speed and efficiency is concerned.
I think I would turn the problem around. Instead of hunting for the dial, I would use a set of robust features from the watch to 'stitch' the target image onto a template. The first watch has a set of squares in the dial that are white, the second watch has a number of white circles. I would per type of watch:
Segment out the squares or circles in the dial. Segmentation steps can be tricky as they are usually both scale and light dependent
Estimate the centers or corners of the above found feature areas. These are the new feature points.
Use the Hungarian algorithm to match features between the template watch and the target watch. Alternatively, one can take the surroundings of each feature point in the original image and match these using cross correlation
Use matching features between the template and the target to estimate scaling, rotation and translation
Stitch the image
As the image is now in a known form, one can extract the regions simply via pre set coordinates
i want to identify a ball in the picture. I am thiking of using sobel edge detection algorithm,with this i can detect the round objects in the image.
But how do i differentiate between different objects. For example, a foot ball is there in one picture and in another picture i have a picture of moon.. how to differentiate what object has been detected.
When i use my algorithm i get ball in both the cases. Any ideas?
Well if all the objects you would like to differentiate are round, you could even use a hough transformation for round objects. This is a very good way of distinguishing round objects.
But your basic problem seems to be classification - sorting the objects on your image into different classes.
For this you don't really need a Neural Network, you could simply try with a Nearest Neighbor match. It's functionalities are a bit like neural networks since you can give it several reference pictures where you tell the system what can be seen there and it will optimize itself to the best average values for each attribute you detected. By this you get a dictionary of clusters for the different types of objects.
But for this you'll of course first need something that distinguishes a ball from a moon.
Since they are all real round objects (which appear as circles) it will be useless to compare for circularity, circumference, diameter or area (only if your camera is steady and if you know a moon will always have the same size on your images, other than a ball).
So basically you need to look inside the objects itself and you can try to compare their mean color value or grayscale value or the contrast inside the object (the moon will mostly have mid-gray values whereas a soccer ball consists of black and white parts)
You could also run edge filters on the segmented objects just to determine which is more "edgy" in its texture. But for this there are better methods I guess...
So basically what you need to do first:
Find several attributes that help you distinguish the different round objects (assuming they are already separated)
Implement something to get these values out of a picture of a round object (which is already segmented of course, so it has a background of 0)
Build a system that you feed several images and their class to have a supervised learning system and feed it several images of each type (there are many implementations of that online)
Now you have your system running and can give other objects to it to classify.
For this you need to segment the objects in the image, by i.e Edge filters or a Hough Transformation
For each of the segmented objects in an image, let it run through your classification system and it should tell you which class (type of object) it belongs to...
Hope that helps... if not, please keep asking...
When you apply an edge detection algorithm you lose information.
Thus the moon and the ball are the same.
The moon has a diiferent color, a different texture, ... you can use these informations to differnentiate what object has been detected.
That's a question in AI.
If you think about it, the reason you know it's a ball and not a moon, is because you've seen a lot of balls and moons in your life.
So, you need to teach the program what a ball is, and what a moon is. Give it some kind of dictionary or something.
The problem with a dictionary of course would be that to match the object with all the objects in the dictionary would take time.
So the best solution would probably using Neural networks. I don't know what programming language you're using, but there are Neural network implementations to most languages i've encountered.
You'll have to read a bit about it, decide what kind of neural network, and its architecture.
After you have it implemented it gets easy. You just give it a lot of pictures to learn (neural networks get a vector as input, so you can give it the whole picture).
For each picture you give it, you tell it what it is. So you give it like 20 different moon pictures, 20 different ball pictures. After that you tell it to learn (built in function usually).
The neural network will go over the data you gave it, and learn how to differentiate the 2 objects.
Later you can use that network you taught, give it a picture, and it a mark of what it thinks it is, like 30% ball, 85% moon.
This has been discussed before. Have a look at this question. More info here and here.