Lua compiled scripts on Mac OS X - Intel vs PPC - macos

Been using Lua 5.0 in a Mac OS X universal binary app for some years. Lua scripts are compiled using luac and the compiled scripts are bundled with the app. They have worked properly in Tiger and Leopard, Intel or PPC.
To avoid library problems at the time, I simply added the Lua src tree to my Xcode project and compiled as is, with no problems.
It was time to update to a more modern version of Lua so I replaced my source tree with that of 5.1.4. I rebuilt luac using make macosx (machine is running Leopard on Intel).
Uncompiled scripts work properly in Tiger and Leopard, Intel and PPC, as always.
However, now compiled scripts fail to load on PPC machines.
So I rebuilt luac with the 'ansi' flag, and recompiled my scripts. Same error. Similarly, a build flag of 'generic' produced no joy.
Can anyone please advise on what I can do next?

Lua's compiled scripts are pretty much the raw bytecode dumped out after a short header. The header documents some of the properties of the platform used to compile the bytecode, but the loader only verifies that the current platform has the same properties.
Unfortunately, this creates problems when loading bytecode compiled on another platform, even if compiled by the very same version of Lua. Of course, scripts compiled by different versions of Lua cannot be expected to work, and since the version number of Lua is included in the bytecode header, the attempt to load them is caught by the core.
The simple answer is to just not compile scripts. If Lua compiles the script itself, you only have to worry about possible version mismatches between Lua cores in your various builds of your application, and that isn't hard to deal with.
Actually supporting a full cross compatibility for compiled bytecode is not easy. In that email, Mike Pall identified the following issues:
Endianess: swap on output as needed.
sizeof(size_t), affects huge string constants: check for overflow when
downgrading.
sizeof(int), affectsMAXARG_Bx and MAXARG_sBx: check for overflow when
downgrading.
typeof(lua_Number): easy in C, but only when the host and the target
follow the same FP standard; precision
loss when upgrading (rare case);
warn about non-integer numbers when
downgrading to int32.
From all the discussions that I've seen about this issue on the mailing list, I see two likely viable approaches, assuming that you are unwilling to consider just shipping the uncompiled Lua scripts.
The first would be to fix the byte order as the compiled scripts are loaded. That turns out to be easier to do than you'd expect, as it can be done by replacing the low-level function that reads the script file without recompiling the core itself. In fact, it can even be done in pure Lua, by supplying your own chunk reader function to lua_load(). This should work as long as the only compatibility issue over your platforms is byte order.
The second is to patch the core itself to use a common representation for compiled scripts on all platforms. This has been described as possible by Luiz Henrique de Figueiredo:
....
I'm convinced that the best route to
byte order or cross-compiling is
third-party dump/undump pairs. The
files ldump.c and lundump.c are
completely replaceable; they export a
single, well-defined, entry point. The
format of precompiled chunks is not
sacred at all; you can use any format,
as long as ldump.c and lundump.c agree
about it. (For instance, Rici Lake is
considering writing a text format for
precompiled chunks.)
....
Personally, I'd recommend giving serious consideration to not pre-compiling the scripts and thus avoid the platform portability issues entirely.
Edit: I've updated my description of the bytecode header thanks to lhf's comment. I hadn't read this part of the Lua source yet, and I probably should have checked it before being quite so assertive about what information is or is not present in the header.
Here is the fragment from lundump.c that forms a copy of the header matching the running platform for comparison to the bytecode being loaded. It is simply compared with memcmp() for an exact match to the header from the file, so any mismatch will cause the stock loader (luaU_undump()) to reject the file.
/*
* make header
*/
void luaU_header (char* h)
{
int x=1;
memcpy(h,LUA_SIGNATURE,sizeof(LUA_SIGNATURE)-1);
h+=sizeof(LUA_SIGNATURE)-1;
*h++=(char)LUAC_VERSION;
*h++=(char)LUAC_FORMAT;
*h++=(char)*(char*)&x; /* endianness */
*h++=(char)sizeof(int);
*h++=(char)sizeof(size_t);
*h++=(char)sizeof(Instruction);
*h++=(char)sizeof(lua_Number);
*h++=(char)(((lua_Number)0.5)==0); /* is lua_Number integral? */
}
As can be seen, the header is 12 bytes long and contains a signature (4 bytes, "<esc>Lua"), version and format codes, a flag byte for endianness, sizes of the types int, size_t, Instruction, and lua_Number, and a flag indicating whether lua_Number is an integral type.
This allows most platform distinctions to be caught, but doesn't attempt to catch every way in which platforms can differ.
I still stand by the recommendations made above: first, ship compilable sources; or second, customize ldump.c and lundump.c to store and load a common format, with the additional note that any custom format should redefine the LUAC_FORMAT byte of the header so as to not be confused with the stock bytecode format.

You may want to use a patched bytecode loader that supports different endianness.
See this.

I would have commented on RBerteig's post, but I apparently don't have enough reputation yet to be able to do so. In working on bringing LuaRPC up to speed with Lua 5.1.x AND making it work with embedded targets, I've been modifying the ldump.c and lundump.c sources to make them both a bit more flexible. The embedded Lua project (eLua) already had some of the patches you can find on the Lua list, but I've added a bit more to make lundump a little more friendly to scripts compiled on different architectures. There's also cross-compilation support provided so that you can build for targets differing from the host system (see luac.c in the same directory as the links below).
If you're interested in checking out the modifications, you can find them in the eLua source repository:
http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/elua/trunk/src/lua/lundump.c
http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/elua/trunk/src/lua/lundump.h
http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/elua/trunk/src/lua/ldump.c
Standard Disclaimer:
I make no claim that the modifications are perfect or work in every situation. If you use it and find anything broken, I'd be glad to hear about it so that it can be fixed.

Lua bytecode is not portable. You should ship source scripts with your application.
If download size is a concern, they are generally shorter than the bytecode form.
If intellectual property is a concern, you can use a code obfuscator, and keep in mind that disassembling Lua bytecode is anything but difficult.
If loading time is a concern, you can precompile the sources locally in your installation script.

I conjecture that you compiled the scripts on an Intel box.
Compiled scripts are wildly unportable. If you really want to precompile scripts, you'll need to include two versions of each compiled script: one for Intel and one for PPC. Your app will have to interrogate which program it's running on and use the correct compiled script.

I don't have enough reputation to comment, so I have to provide this as an answer instead even though it's not an appropriate answer to the question asked. Sorry.
There is an Lua Obfuscator available here:
http://www.capprime.com/CapprimeLuaObfuscator/CapprimeLuaObfuscator.aspx
Full disclosure: I am the author of the obfuscator and I am aware it is not perfect. Feedback is welcome and encouraged (there is a feedback page available from the above page).

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gdb, how to step into c runtime? Where is crt_c.c?

When I'm stepping into debugged program, it says that it can't find crt/crt_c.c file. I have sources of gcc 6.3.0 downloaded, but where is crt_c.c in there?
Also how can I find source code for printf and rand in there? I'd like to step through them in debugger.
Ide is codeblocks, if that's important.
Edit: I'm trying to do so because I'm trying to decrease size of my executable. Going straight into freestanding leaves me with a lot of missing functions, so I intend to study and replace them one by one. I'm trying to do that to make my program a little smaller and faster, and to be able to study assembly output a bit easier.
Also, forgot to mention, I'm on windows, msys2. But answer is still helpful.
How can I find source code for printf and rand in there?
They (printf, rand, etc....) are part of your C standard library which (on Linux) is outside of the GCC compiler. But crt0 is provided by GCC (however, is often not compiled with debug information) and some C files there are generated in the build tree during compilation of GCC.
(on Windows, most of the C standard library is proprietary -inside some DLL provided by MicroSoft- and you are probably forbidden to look into the implementation or to reverse-engineer it; AFAIK EU laws might mention some exception related to interoperability¸ but then you need to consult a lawyer and I am not a lawyer)
Look into GNU glibc (or perhaps musl-libc) if you want to study its source code. libc is generally using system calls (listed in syscalls(2)) provided by the Linux kernel.
I'd like to step through them in debugger.
In practice you won't be able to do that easily, because the libc is provided by your distribution and has generally been compiled without debug information in DWARF format.
Some Linux distributions provide a debuggable variant of libc, perhaps as some libc6-dbg package.
(your question lacks motivation and smells like some XY problem)
I intend to study and replace them one by one.
This is very unrealistic (particularly on Windows, whose system call interface is not well documented) and could take you many years (or perhaps more than a lifetime). Do you have that much time?
Read also Operating Systems: Three Easy Pieces and look into OsDev wiki.
I'm trying to do so because I'm trying to decrease size of my executable.
Wrong approach. A debugger needs debug info (e.g. in DWARF) which will increase the size of the executable (but could later be stripped). BTW standard C functions are in some common shared library (or DLL on Windows) which is used by many processes.
I'm on windows, msys2.
Bad choice. Windows is proprietary. Linux is made of free software (more than ten billions lines of source code, if you consider all useful packages inside a typical Linux distribution), whose source code you could study (even if it would take several lifetimes).

How compilation and linking at runtime is happening?

In a tutorial I've encountered a new concept (for me), that I never thought is possible. Actually, I thought that compilation is an entirely pre-run-time process. This is the phrase from tutorial: "Compile time occurs before link time (when the output of one or more compiled files are joined together) and runtime (when a program is executed). In some programming languages it may be necessary for some compilation and linking to occur at runtime".
My questions are:
Is pre-run-time compilation and linking processes absolutely different from run-time compilation and linking? If yes, please explain the main differences.
How are code sections that need to be compiled(linked) during run-time marked and where is that information kept? (This may be different from language to language, if possible, please give a specific example).
Thank you very much for your time!
Runtime compilation
The best (most well known) example I'm personally aware of is the just in time compilation used by Java. As you might know Java code is being compiled into bytecode which can be interpreted by the Java Virtual Machine. It's therefore different from let's say C++ which is first fully (preprocessed) compiled (and linked) into an executable which can be ran directly by the OS without any virtual machine.
The Java bytecode is instead interpreted by the VM, which maps them to processor specific instructions. That being said the JVM does JIT, which takes that bytecode and compiles it (during runtime) into machine code. Here we arrive at your second question. Even in Java it can depend on which JVM you are using but basically there are pieces of code called hotspots, the pieces of code that are run frequently and which might be compiled so the application's performance improves. This is done during runtime because the normal compiler does not have (or well might not have) all the necessary data to make a proper judgement which pieces of code are in fact ran frequently. Therefore JIT requires some kind of runtime statistics gathering, which is done parallel to the program execution and is done by the JVM. What kind of statistics are gathered, what can be optimised (compiled in runtime) etc. depends on the implementation (you obviously cannot do everything a normal compiler would do due to memory and time constraints - guess this partly answers the first question? you don't compile everything and usually only a limited set of optimisations are supported in runtime compilation). You can try looking for such info but from my experience usually it's very badly documented and hard to find (at least when it comes to official sources, not presentations/blogs etc.)
Runtime linking
Linker is a different pair of shoes. We cannot use the Java example anymore since it doesn't really have a linker like C or C++ (instead it has a classloader which takes care of loading files and putting it all together).
Usually linking is performed by a linker after the compilation step (static linking), this has pros (no dependencies) and cons (higher memory imprint as we cannot use a shared library, when the library number changes you need to recompile your sources).
Runtime linking (dynamic/late linking) is actually performed by the OS and it's the OS linker's job to first load shared libraries and then attach them to a running process. Furthermore there are also different types of dynamic linking: explicit and implicit. This has the benefit of not having to recompile the source when the version number changes since it's dynamic and library sharing but also drawbacks, what if you have different programs that use the same library but require different versions (look for DLL hell). So yes those two concepts are also quite different.
Again how it's all done, how it's decided what and how should be linked, is OS specific, for instance Microsoft has the dynamic-link library concept.

What is the difference between "binary install" and "compile and install from source"? Which is better?

I want to install a driver for Ros (robot operating system), and I have two options the binary install and the compile and install from source. I would like to know which installation is better, and what are the advantages and disadvantages of each one.
Source: AKA sourcecode, usually in some sort of tarball or zip file. This is RAW programming language code. You need some sort of compiler (javac for java, gcc for c++, etc.) to create the executable that your computer then runs.
Advantages:
You can see what the source code is which means....
You can edit the end result program to behave differently
Depending on what you're doing, when you compile, you could enable certain optimizations that will work on your machine and ONLY your machine (or one EXACTLY like it). For instance, for some sort of gfx rendering software, you could compile it to enable GPU support, which would increase the rendering speed.
You can create a version of an application for a different OS/Chipset (see Binary below)
Disadvantages:
You have to have your compiler installed
You need to manually install all required libraries, which frequently also need to be compiled (and THEIR libraries need to be installed, etc.) This can easily turn a quick 30-second command into a multi-hour project.
There are any number of things that could go wrong, and if you're not familiar with what the various errors mean, finding support online could be quite difficult.
Binary: This is the actual program that runs. This is the executable that gets created when you compile from source. They typically have all necessary libraries built into them, or install/deploy them as necessary (depending on how the application was written).
Advantages:
It's ready-to-run. If you have a binary designed for your processor and operating system, then chances are you can run the program and everything will work the first time.
Less configuration. You don't have to set up a whole bunch of configuration options to use the program; it just uses a generic default configuration.
If something goes wrong, it should be a little easier to find help online, since the binary is pre-compiled....other people may be using it, which means you are using the EXACT same program as them, not one optimized for your system.
Disadvantages:
You can't see/edit the source code, so you can't get optimizations, or tweak it for your specific application. Additionally, you don't really know what the program is going to do, so there could be nasty surprises waiting for you (this is why Antivirus is useful....although LESS necessary on a linux system).
Your system must be compatible with the Binary. For instance, you can't run a 64-bit application on a 32-bit operating system. You can't run an Intel binary for OS X on an older PowerPC-based G5 Mac.
In summary, which one is "better" is up to you. Only you can decide which one will be necessary for whatever it is you're trying to do. In most cases, using the binary is going to be just fine, and give you the least trouble. Sometimes, though, it is nice to have the source available, if only as documentation.

Do DLLs built with Rust require libgcc.dll on run time?

If I build a DLL with Rust language, does it require libgcc*.dll to be present on run time?
On one hand:
I've seen a post somewhere on the Internet, claiming that yes it does;
rustc.exe has libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll in its directory, and cargo.exe won't run without the dll when downloaded from the http://crates.io website;
On the other hand:
I've seen articles about building toy OS kernels in Rust, so they most certainly don't require libgcc dynamic library to be present.
So, I'm confused. What's the definite answer?
Rust provides two main toolchains for Windows: x86_64-pc-windows-gnu and x86_64-pc-windows-msvc.
The -gnu toolchain includes an msys environment and uses GCC's ld.exe to link object files. This toolchain requires libgcc*.dll to be present at runtime. The main advantage of this toolchain is that it allows you to link against other msys provided libraries which can make it easier to link with certain C\C++ libraries that are difficult to under the normal Windows environment.
The -msvc toolchain uses the standard, native Windows development tools (either a Windows SDK install or a Visual Studio install). This toolchain does not use libgcc*.dll at either compile or runtime. Since this toolchain uses the normal windows linker, you are free to link against any normal Windows native libraries.
If you need to target 32-bit Windows, i686- variants of both of these toolchains are available.
NOTE: below answer summarizes situation as of Sep'2014; I'm not aware if it's still current, or if things have changed to better or worse since then. But I strongly suspect things have changed, given that 2 years have already passed since then. It would be cool if somebody tried to ask steveklabnik about it again, then update below info, or write a new, fresher answer!
Quick & raw transcript of a Rust IRC chat with steveklabnik, who gave me a kind of answer:
Hi; I have a question: if I build a DLL with Rust, does it require libgcc*.dll to be present on run time? (on Windows)
I believe that if you use the standard library, then it does require it;
IIRC we depend on one symbol from it;
but I am unsure.
How can I avoid using the standard library, or those parts of it that do? (and/or do you know which symbol exactly?)
It involves #[no_std] at your crate root; I think the unsafe guide has more.
Running nm -D | grep gcc shows me __gc_personality_v0, and then there is this: What is __gxx_personality_v0 for?,
so it looks like our stack unwinding implementation depends on that.
I seem to recall I've seen some RFCs to the effect of splitting standard library, too; are there parts I can use without pulling libgcc in?
Yes, libcore doesn't require any of that.
You give up libstd.
Also, quoting parts of the unsafe guide:
The core library (libcore) has very few dependencies and is much more portable than the standard library (libstd) itself. Additionally, the core library has most of the necessary functionality for writing idiomatic and effective Rust code. (...)
Further libraries, such as liballoc, add functionality to libcore which make other platform-specific assumptions, but continue to be more portable than the standard library itself.
And fragment of the current docs for unwind module:
Currently Rust uses unwind runtime provided by libgcc.
(The transcript was edited slightly for readability. Still, I'll happily delete this answer if anyone provides something better formatted and more thorough!)

Can I mix arm-eabi with arm-elf?

I have a product which bootloader and application are compiled using a compiler (gnuarm GCC 4.1.1) that generates "arm-elf".
The bootloader and application are segregated in different FLASH memory areas in the linker script.
The application has a feature that enables it to call the bootloader (as a simple c-function with 2 parameters).
I need to be able to upgrade existing products around the world, and I can safely do this using always the same compiler.
Now I'd like to be able to compile this product application using a new GCC version that outputs arm-eabi.
Everything will be fine for new products, where both application and bootloader are compiled using the same toolchain, but what happens with existing products?
If I flash a new application, compiled with GCC 4.6.x and arm-none-eabi, will my application still be able to call the bootloader function from the old arm-elf bootloader?
Furthermore, not directly related to the above question, can I mix object files compiled with arm-elf into a binary compiled with arm-eabi?
EDIT:
I think is good to make clear I am building for a bare metal ARM7, if it makes any difference...
No. An ABI is the magic that makes binaries compatible. The Application Binary Interface determines various conventions on how to communicate with other libraries/applications. For example, an ABI will define calling convention, which makes implicit assumptions about things like which registers are used for passing arguments to C functions, and how to deal with excess arguments.
I don't know the exact differences between EABI and ABI, but you can find some of them by reading up on EABI. Debian's page mentions the syscall convention is different, along with some alignment changes.
Given the above, of course, you cannot mix arm-elf and arm-eabi objects.
The above answer is given on the assumption that you talk to the bootloader code in your main application. Given that the interface may be very simple (just a function call with two parameters), it's possible that it might work. It'd be an interesting experiment to try. However, it is not ** guaranteed** to work.
Please keep in mind you do not have to use EABI. You can generate an arm-elf toolchain with gcc 4.6 just as well as with older versions. Since you're using a binary toolchain on windows, you may have more of a challenge. I'd suggest investigating crosstool-ng, which works quite well on Linux, and may work okay on cygwin to build the appropriate toolchain.
There is always the option of making the call to bootloader in inline assembly, in which case you can adhere to any calling standard you need :).
However, besides the portability issue it introduces, this approach will also make two assumptions about your bootloader and application:
you are able to detect in your app that a particular device has a bootloader built with your non-EABI toolchain, as you can only call the older type bootloader using the assembly code.
the two parameters you mentioned are used as primitive data by your bootloader. Should the bootloader use them, for example, as pointers to structs then you could be facing issues with incorrect alignment, padding and so forth.
I Think that this will be OK. I did a migration something like this myself, from what I remember I only ran into a problem to do with handling division.
This is the best info I can find about the differences, it suggests that if you don't have struct alignment issues, you may be OK.

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