In other words, can I count on a control ID as a reliable identifier?
From some reading I've done, it sounds like .NET controls can have control IDs that change with every run, is this so for Win32 apps as well, or are they something that's hardcoded in the source?
The window/control in question is actually an Internet Explorer dialog if that helps.
In general win32 dialog resource IDs do not change when you run the app. However, they are internal implementation details and as such they are subject to change whenever an update (patch, service pack, major release) to the application is made.
In general all of IE's dialogs use hard-coded control IDs. There may be some that are dynamic. If you give the specific control I might be able to give you a better answer.
The answer is "it depends on the circumstances, but in the majority of programs, these will not change across multiple executions." In general, a control ID or resource ID will be the same across every execution of the same program.
In most implementations, resources are stored in the resource section of the PE executable and are assigned a resource ID within that data structure. Usually, the developer specifies the resource in a .rc file.
The exceptional case is via APIs such as CreateDialogIndirect() which allow IDs specified through the API at runtime. Such dynamic creation is uncommon, however. Consistency of resource IDs and control IDs is the expected condition, so even in the case of the CreateXXXIndirect() API, users of the API would be ill-advised to chose a varying ID.
Microsoft has spent years trying to deal with applications which embed assumptions about internal windows implementation details. One of the biggest causes of compatibility problems for IE8 was caused by applications which made assumptions about the window order of IE controls. When the UI was changed in IE8, the controls moved and a number of browser plugins broke hideously.
In general you should never ever make assumptions about controls in an application that you didn't write - your code WILL break in the future (not might break, will break).
As a general rule, no they don't change between runs. Control IDs are usually specified with a dialog template, and that's a static resource compiled into an .exe or .dll. Controls can also be created using a regular call to CreateWindow or CreateWindowEx. In such cases, the ID is usually a constant, but it could be anything in principal (even a random value).
In any case, if you're planning to muck around with a dialog in another application, then you are asking for trouble. Control IDs can and do change between different versions of a program.
It depends on the control. Controls that are dynamically created could have a different ID every time they are created. Controls based on static dialog resources will have static IDs.
Even if a dialog is backed by a dialog resource template, controls can be added dynamically at runtime and those controls could have dynamically generated IDs.
Depending on your intent, it may be acceptable to store and reuse it for future lookups or traces; but in general it isn't safe.
If the window is based upon a dialog template, items declared in the template generally don't change. It is perfectly safe under typical circumstances to use these as identifiers.
Sometimes the window class name or a portion of it can be used as an identifier instead, depending on the window host.
If the dialog is one of the standard prompts from internet explorer, you may want to use text stored in adjacent controls or the dialog caption as additional verification info (if localized versions of IE are not an issue). If the dialog is a window that embeds an instance of MSHTML/IE; none of these options may be viable- but you can use OLE accessibility to get at the document shown and then browse the DOM from there.
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I need my Visual Studio extension to react to debugging events. I've registered a IDebugEventCallback2 and I'm receiving events, but all I get for each event is an opaque IDebugEvent2 and a Guid, many of which are not only undocumented but don't appear anywhere on the web (or in my registry).
My specific requirement at the moment is to know when the process is Continued - ie. the user has hit Continue, Run to cursor, etc. What Guid should I be looking for?
Or is there some other event family that I should be subscribing to?
(More generally, is there some way I'm missing to find out about the events that are delivered to my IDebugEventCallback2::Event callback, when many of them don't appear in MSDN or anywhere else? Thanks!)
There is no easy way to do this. Actions such as Continue and Run to cursor are abstractions implemented by Visual Studio and do not correspond to any unique event(s) with respect to the debug engine. The debug engine event reporting interface IDebugEventCallback2 will enable you to get notified only on fine-grained events such as when creating a breakpoint or reaching a breakpoint.
While Visual Studio enables you to perform actions such as Continue and Run to cursor programmatically, it does not provide a direct way to get notified when they are taken.
You can use EnvDTE.DebuggerEvents.OnXxx events to get notified when something is about to happen. In particular, the OnEnterBreakMode event enables you to intercept a breakpoint hit and possibly take an action. You can also inspect all the details of the reached breakpoint(s) using the current EnvDTE.Debugger inside the event handler.
Now with some effort, you can use these constructs to implement events that correspond to all Visual Studio debugging actions including Continue and Run to cursor accurately. If you require additional events not provided by EnvDTE.DebuggerEvents (such as when a breakpoint is inserted), you have no choice but use IDebugEventCallback2.Event. In this case if you have specific events in mind, please mention them explicitly and I might be able to tell you the corresponding IDebugEventCallback2.Event GUIDs.
You probably got off on the wrong foot here, the IDebugXxx interfaces were really intended to create your own debugging engine. Still useful perhaps to see what is going on in the existing engine, you are suppose to use QueryInterface() to discover the specific interface that matches the event. Like IDebugEngineCreateEvent2, IDebugProcessCreateEvent2, IDebugProcessDestroyEvent2, etcetera. There are a bunch of them, they are listed in the VSSDK\VisualStudioIntegration\Common\Inc\msdbg.h header and include their IID.
Best thing to do is peek at this sample, it shows how to crack the event notification into the specific interfaces. The AD7Events.cs source file shows the wrappers. Do keep in mind that this sample was made to show how to create an engine, not how to use the one already built into VS.
But yes, you are not going to get a "continue debug" event out of this. A debugging engine does not need that event since it is already responsible for taking care of that by itself. It already knows when it calls IDebugProgram3::Continue().
Surely what you are looking for is IVsDebugger.AdviseDebuggerEvents(). That's the one that tells you what the built-in debugger is doing. You need to pass an object of a class that implements IVsDebuggerEvents, your OnModeChanged() method will be called with a DBGMODE notification. I don't see a lot of fantastic examples that demonstrate usage, this web page might be helpful.
In Windows 7's Windows Explorer list view (what allegedly is not list view at all) in the Details view, you can start selection marquee in the first (Name) column. You just need to start outside the actual name.
The same is true for default-style list view control in Details view.
But if you set the list view control to the Explorer style (using the SetWindowTheme), what should mimic the Windows Explorer, this does not work anymore. You can start selection in the second and later columns only.
SetWindowTheme(listView1.Handle, "explorer", null);
Is there any way to make list view mimic the Explorer selection style?
I suppose there's no settings to enable such behavior and this would have to be coded. Like handling the mouse down and triggering selection. But I have no idea how to do that.
Thanks.
Ntb, I'm using C++Builder, but this should be purely Win32 issue. I've tested this with WinForms too (hence the C# sample above).
Is there any way to make list view it mimic the Explorer selection style?
No, SysListView32 in explorer theme does not behave that way. The control used by the modern Explorer is actually DirectUIHwnd. And you are not able to use one of them.
The only way to get the behaviour of DirectUIHwnd is to code it yourself. I expect that's possible to do but I'd also expect it to be very difficult to achieve.
Actually there is a way to mimic Explorer selection behavior. It requires a lot of additional declarative work, but it is possible.
You need to get undocumented IListView interface via undocumented LVM_QUERYINTERFACE message (note that interface declaration and GUIDs are different for Windows Vista and Windows 7+). Details about constants and declarations can be found here:
IListView at Geoff Chappell - Software Analyst or
Undocumented List View Features at Code Project.
After acquiring the interface all you need is simply a call to SetSelectionFlags(1, 1) method. Voila you are done.
When automating excel using the Excel Interop API, I can easily do a range search using the method Range.Find. I am passing through the LookIn, LookAt, SearchOrder, SearchDirection, and MatchCase options for the Find. This as noted by the MSDN documentation, persists the values passed into this method into the user settings, so the next time that the user opens the find form, the options will be selected which I used in the Range.Find method.
I need to persist the values of the find options before and after I do the programmatic find. So I want to capture the current find options, then do the Range.Find, and then set the find options back to the options that were set before my search. However, I do not see that the find options are publicly accessible. Any ideas on how to get these?
I'm basically looking to retrieve current find option values for LookIn, LookAt, SearchOrder, SearchDirection, and MatchCase.
Update
The most interesting thing I could find so far is that you can access the Excel Application dialogs - Dialogs Interface. So here, I can get access to the FormulaFind dialog, which is slightly different than the Find and Replace dialog, though may lead to some of the properties I'm looking for. I haven't had any luck, but perhaps there's a way to access the properties through this form using reflection. I'll keep trying something with this.
// xlDialogFormulaFind, xlDialogFormulaReplace
Excel.Dialog dialog = this.Application.Dialogs.Item[Excel.XlBuiltInDialog.xlDialogFormulaFind];
Well, I am not sure if you'd consider this approach, but I'll give a shot here in case it might be helpful.
What I would do is, I'd create a registry key holding the values you wanted to persist. I could then call RegistryKey.GetValue(valuename) to retrieve values, provided that there's no exceptions thrown.
As long as that registry key stays there, unchanged, and you have enough privilege to access registry key, you should be able to always get the same values.
Wish we could really use application settings here, which would make it easier, but, well, as you might have known, vsto add-in doesn't like it, according to this article.
You cannot use application settings in an unmanaged application that
hosts the .NET Framework. Settings will not work in such environments
as Visual Studio add-ins, C++ for Microsoft Office, control hosting in
Internet Explorer, or Microsoft Outlook add-ins and projects.
Hope this helps.
I'm currently developing a wp7 app (don't want to tell too much ;), but I'm struggling a little with the user interaction.
The main question, I'm not sure about is: Should I offer an explicit save button in dialogs and use the phone back button as cancel, or should I save implicit the time the user taps the phone back button ...
The more I think about, the more I'm unsure about the best user experience.
I already read the user experience and interaction guide from Microsoft, but there isn't any advice in there about that issue ...
Thx alot for your suggestions.
On page 68 of the Windows Phone 7 UI Design and Interaction Guide it states:
Changes to Application Settings should be immediately implemented. This means that a "Done", "OK", or other confirming dialog is not neededd. In some cases, even though the change has happened immediately, the user may not have feedback that the change has occurred until an ongoing event is completed or a future event occurs. Examples would be joining a secure Wi-Fi network or changing the frequency of alarms.
Keeping Application Settings brief and clear should be a design goal. Complex, multi-page, multi-level Application Settings can frustrate or confuse users into thinking that they have entered another application entirely.
Although the same page also goes on to say:
Immediately implement user-selected Application Settings without a confirming dialog box and provide a feedback method to indicate that the change has occurred.
Avoid creating Application Settings that have more than 2 pages (screens). Settings that require more than a single screen should use overlying half screens to avoid losing context when
the SIP Keyboard is displayed.
If a task cannot be undone, always provide the user with an option to cancel. Text entry is an example. Actions that overwrite or delete data, or are irreversable must have a “Cancel” button.
When using additional screens with commit and cancel buttons, clicking those buttons should perform the associated action and return the user to the main settings screen.
To keep the heading of settings control panels consistent, the heading for the settings page should look as follows:
SETTINGS
<CPL Name/ Application Name>
Applications that fetch data over the network must have an option to disable data usage.
So, I think you only get in to questions over explicit vs. implicit if you have multiple pages for settings, and if you do it sounds like the explicit would be the way to go with sub-pages, but implicit for the initial page.
You should use explicit saving of settings.
However, for data entered it will depend on the application and the data being entered.
It's typcial to include a save button (or equivalent) otherwise there's (probably) no way for the user to cancel out of a partially entered form. This can also cause issues if there are validation issues which would prevent the saving of the partially entered data.
It depends on the app though. There is no universal rule for this.
I'm working on a little macro record/replay tool which can automate a few very old Visual Basic 6 GUIs we have. To do so, I'm identifying the controls by their name (the value of the name property of a control, that is).
One part of this tool needs to determine the name of a control given its HWND. For newer Visual Basic applications which were done using VB.NET, I can use the WM_GETCONTROLNAME window message. This works nicely.
However, this message is not understood by older windows. Is there any way to do this for controls of Visual Basic 6 applications? A solution which does not require being in the process of the GUI would be preferrable, but if I had a solution which only works inside the GUI process then that would be acceptable as well (since I can do the injection myself).
UPDATE: One thing I just tried, this moderate success: I used the AccessibleObjectFromWindow to check for implementations of the IAccessible interface of the object which shows the given HWND. In case I get an implementation (it seems that many [all?] Visual Basic controls implement this interface), I use the accName property to read out the "accessible name". Sometimes this does yield a useful string, but usually it doesn't.
I believe the only way would be getting inside the process and obtaining a pointer to the Form object, yet I have no idea how to do it from outside.
Is it possible you add support for the WM_GETCONTROLNAME to those older applications?
Or maybe, you could identify the controls by some other, natively-available properties?
Other that that, as Raymond is saying, there isn't much you can do.
Can you modify the vb6 apps? if so in each form load event you could iterate me.controls and use the SetProp(ctrl.hwnd, "MYNAME:" & ctrl.name, 0) api to add the name to the window's own property list, then in your other app you can EnumProps(ctrl_HWND) looking for the one that begins with MYNAME: and parse out the value.