For example if App-A tries to installed App-B. Is there any way for App-A to know when App-B is finished installing and can be run?
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to be specific I am trying to install ChromeSetup.exe on windows using AIR 2.
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Good information guys, after reviewing all your answers is seems like I should run the installer with the -ms argument so it installs silently. Then listen for the NativeProcessExitEvent.Exit event. I will try that and see if it works.
It Depends (TM).
Most of the time, the installer for an app is a single executable - so you can launch it and wait until execution comes back to you, but I've seen some unholy messes like "downloader unpacker -> installer downloader -> installer unpacker -> installer" which launched the next executable in the background. Try it with the specific apps you're after and see if the simple system() method works. If not, you'd have to monitor the process list to see if the other installer is done yet.
Installers generally generate logs that give output for events during install. It may be possible in your case to search for a generated log file from App-B installer and look at it to gauge success or failure. But if you're just running the App-B installer as a command line executable you could just invoke it synchronously and wait on it to complete.
Typically the installer would just exit and the system() call would return.
Or you can script installers and their own scripting language would control the sequence.
Generally speaking, the installer will run as a process, and you can wait for that process to finish. Under POSIX you can use spawn, and quite a few other systems provide the same or least something quite similar.
If I understand well, you are writing an installer and you want to install Chrome as a pre-requisite or something like that?
If so, you can run the installer silently with the "-ms" parameter according to what I could see on the Web.
Then how to call it depends on which programming language or system you're writing the installer on: for example, from a batch file, you would do
start /wait "" GoogleSetup.exe -ms
but how to call a separate process and wait for its termination depends on the development language and system you're using. Most of them offer functions to launch external processes and wait for their termination almost effortlessly.
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I have an app that listens to certain process events, such as starting a program and than recording the full commands. I would like to replay starting the programs using the commands as well. For some programs e.g. word, this works very well.
For windows app programs, this does not work. For example, starting calculator:
Command inputs: "C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.WindowsCalculator_10.1709.2703.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\Calculator.exe"
Access is denied.
I could start the calculator using calc, but unfortunately, I don't have that information in my program. Is there any way to start such a program using the executable path?
I used admin mode for the latter command.
Have you tried running cmd as administrator?
Just kidding ;-)
Actually, starting Windows Store apps (or UWP apps, or whatever they are called these days) is not easy. Finding the correct command line for them is a very long-winded process. It's described here:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-windows_store/starting-windows-10-store-app-from-the-command/836354c5-b5af-4d6c-b414-80e40ed14675?auth=1
I know it's bad form to just give links as answers, but on this occasion the answer itself would take pages to write. If the above link disappears, google "Starting Windows Store apps from the command line".
I think cmd running as a normal user it required administrator access, try cms as administrator.
I have a very specific problem that I need fixing. The major issue is that I don't exactly know how to properly search the remnants of my problem on google. Therefore I am coming to StackOverflow for advice in hopes that someone will assist me.
Summary
So I am writing an application which is to be PCI-compliant for the company which I am starting. The application involves IPC (Inter-process communication) and two "watch-dog" apps which monitor the status of the main application. One of these "watch-dog" applications is an updater (sends an HTTP Request to the server looking for updates of the application).
So! This method which I am using to check the server if the application is up-to-date is using the WinInet library and InternetOpen() to send the request. Then read the response of the page and use GetCookie() to store the response in a buffer. It shall then parse the response accordingly.
If the response says that the current version of my application is less than the version located on the server. It will then tell the customer (user) that their application is out of date, and ask them whether or not they want to update the software. If they choose to update the software, it will perform a Download And Execute from the internet and launch the update-installer on the user's PC.
The Problem
Unfortunately, windows is very "secure" when it comes to having an "unauthorized" application send an HTTP Request to an outgoing url, let alone download something from the server then execute it on the users PC.
My conclusion to this issue was to add the watch-dog programs to the Task Scheduler. That way after the main application is run, it will spawn the watch-dog programs and check if they are running with NTAUTHORITY privileges (which are granted by the Task Scheduler).
After implementing the code to create the task and point it to the location of the watch-dog programs, naming it, writing a description and everything. I executed the program. It ran without errors though here the REAL PROBLEM:
1) Programs executes
2) Spawns watch-dog programs
3) Watchdog program checks for new version
4) Version is found
5) Installer is downloaded, execute ... but
6) The installer does not appear on the screen!
When I run my 'Process Hacker' application to monitor all process actions. I can see that the new installer is download & executed. It is running as NTAUTHORITY/SYSTEM just like the watch-dog programs but it doesn't appear on the system.
I made sure that in my code the status of the window is set to SW_SHOWNORMAL not SW_HIDE. I also made sure that all flags are set accordingly. Though it doesn't appear on the screen!
When I run the application without adding it to the Task Scheduler as my user without NTAUTHORITY/SYSTEM status and just regular user status. It executes (obviously since I am already running as administrator) -- everything works fine. But after adding it to Task Scheduler and having it run with SYSTEM level privileges. The window doesn't appear on the screen visually. Why's that?
I would greatly appreciate anyone that is able to assist me with this problem. Thank-you!
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Can anyone help me understand how this user applied his fix in the registry? By reading the problem I can somewhat interpret that he had the same issue as me.
App is invisible if started from Task Scheduler without any user logged in
In any case, I am trying to use the advice that Gisley gave me to run the application in Interactive Mode. Possibly going to try to give that a try. Still looking for more answers but I am going to be working no this none-the-less in the meantime.
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I tried setting the INTERACTIVE FLAG and it had no effect unfortunately.
Allow me to just emphasize my problem:
For example I write a program which has message boxes and put it in a loop.
for
message box
get current pid
make process in the task scheduler
spawn new process as the task scheduler proc with NTAUTHORITY/SYSTEM
kill last proc pid
end for
Then when I execute it:
I get the message box. Then after new process opens with NTAUTHORITY/SYSTEM the message box does not appear anymore.
Same for if I open a calculator for example.
System("cmd.exe start /c calc.exe")
Program runs... opens calculator
Program gets NTAUTHORITY/SYSTEM status
ON the next loop it executes the calc.exe
I see it in my task manager but it doesnt appear on the screen
I hope the above helped emphasize the core of my issue. I dont see the processes opened by the task scheduler process id with NTAUTHORITY/SYSTEM rights... I dont see the procs executed by it on my screen, though I see them in the task manager | process hacker and they are running with NTAUTHORITY/SYSTEM privileges too.
A shot in the dark - try running the task in interactive mode, but you'll need to have a user logged on.
https://superuser.com/questions/616206/run-interactive-task-even-if-user-is-not-logged-on-windows
Alternatively, or additionally, pass parameters to the installer so that it installs silently.
Silent installation of a MSI package
If I launch an installer with MSIExec in quiet mode I can detect if a reboot is required to complete installation by checking if the exit code is 3010. But what I'd like to be able to do in a programmable form is test whether or not the installation of an MSI will require a reboot to complete before I launch the actual installer.
I've looked around at the MSI APIs:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa369426(v=vs.85).aspx
I did think I could:
Call MsiOpenPackage to get the installer ready to run
Call MsiDoAction with the following: CostInitialize, FileCost, CostFinalize, InstallValidate
Read records from the FilesInUse table (the following documentation on MSDN suggests this table is created after running CostFinalize/InstallValidate:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369546(VS.85).aspx
However that table doesn't actually appear to exist when I query for it during the installation process. Are there any other ways to check if a reboot will be required?
Gareth, theoretically you don't need to perform the actual install, you should execute just the actions until InstallValidate (included) because then the Files In Use messages appear. However, when the installation is performed with an an external UI handler the Windows Installer may behave a little different so that should be tested.
The decision gets eventually made only during installation itself. As you know, it depends on circumstances like DLLs locked by a concurrently runnning application and therefore it is quite volatile.
There is no way that would guarantee you that you will not receive exit code 3010 after the real installation has completed.
That said, the exit code is not that closely bound to files in use. It may also indicate an inability to stop a service or perhaps some other transient or permanent condition. You can not learn whether a service could be stopped until you try.
Jirka is right about the volatility of is a restart required - all kinds of things could happen during the installation process.
However, I think I've got close to what I'd like to be able to do with a different method:
Register an external UI handler for INSTALLLOGMODE_RMFILESINUSE
Capture INSTALLMESSAGE_RMFILESINUSE messages
If I capture any INSTALLMESSAGE_RMFILESINUSE messages, return -1 and exit installation before any file copying proceeds
In this way I can attempt a silent background installation of software but if for any reason it looks like I won't be able to complete the install I can hold back. I think I might be able to do a rollback using the MsiBeginTransaction and MsiEndTransaction functions as well if I do end up in a state of the user has locked a file after starting to copy.
How can I start my program automatically if it crashes on windows 2003 server? Sometimes my program just crashes, is there a way in windows or settings that I can set?
There are several ways to create a process supervisor/guardian process on Windows.
First, is to leverage windows command line capabilities. Create a bat file:
#echo off
:start
start /w "your app to watch.exe"
goto start
start /w will wait for the process to exit. When the process crashes and exits, the bat script will relaunch it.
Another option is to use free supervisor tool https://github.com/chebum/Supervisor. It allows to restart the crashed app, plus it allows to monitor two or more apps at once and it will automatically close these apps when supervisor's window is closed.
The usual approach is to run what is known as a guardian process. This is a separate process, often a service, that monitors the state of the main process. When the guardian detects that the main service has died, it re-spawns it.
To the very best of my knowledge, there is not built in Windows functionality to do this for you.
Notice: running self-looping bat files can be useful, but unless you know what you're doing, they can wreak all kinds of havoc. This goes especially if you run them on startup. You have been warned.
Anyway. I just remembered something from my 286 days, when I played around a lot with BAT files. If you write the file
yourprogram.exe
some other event
the BAT file will run yourprogram, and then pause and wait around in the background until the program exits. After that it will run "some other event". This used to be kind of annoying if you wanted to run multiple things at once, but here it's actually useful. Using this, it's possible to make it run a loop that restarts the program (and reruns the bat file) as soon as it exits. Combine this with https://superuser.com/questions/62525/run-a-completly-hidden-batch-file, and you'll never even see it happening.
The final BAT file ("restart.bat" in this example) will look something like:
c:\[location]\yourprogram.exe
wscript "C:\[location]\invisible.vbs" "C:\[location]\restart.bat"
That's about it. Start the program (on startup via task or even just startup folder) with line 2, and this ought to solve your problem :)
Oh, if you want to stop the loop, just rename the bat file or put "// " in front of the two lines, save it, and exit the program.
If the program you are running requires admin rights, the solution I found was using psexec (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897553.aspx) to run both the program and the bat with elevated privileges. In that case the BAT will look like:
c:\[location]\psexec -h c:\[location]\yourprogram.exe
c:\[location]\psexec -h wscript "C:\[location]\invisible.vbs" "C:\[location]\restart.bat"
Then you run the bat as administrator, or run the second line (without the psexec part) from task scheduler with elevated privileges. BEWARE: running it as a normal user and clicking "no" on the UAC prompt gave me a BSOD, probably because it looped "can't run program because of lacking privileges" a couple of billion times or something :)
You can use RegisterApplicationRestart.
"If you register for restart and the application encounters an
unhandled exception or is not responsive, the user is offered the
opportunity to restart the application; the application is not
automatically restarted without the user's consent. "
For automatic restart without user intervention, there is also RestartOnCrash. Works with all Windows versions.
I was looking for something similar. There are two options to handle this - either you can write a small script by yourself or use something that is already existing.
After some googling I came across this nice list. The blogger has compiled about 8 tools to automatically restart a crashed or closed application.
Unfortunately there are no settings in Windows to automatically restart a regular program when it crashes.
Do you need to actively interact with your application's GUI? Some of the Service Wrappers (designed to run any application as a Windows Service) will monitor your application and restart it when it fails, but be sure investigate Session 0 Isolation to ensure that it won't get in the way.
You may use some special app like BDV SystemEvents or any other. It allows you to specify application which will be started if some another application is closed. Specify the same application as a Condition and as an Action and you will get expected results.
I have a console application (written in VB6 ) which is behaving strangely on my machine. I kick it off from the command line and what should be a two minute job drops straight back to the prompt - if I run this on another machine the executable will sit and wait until the job finishes before returning control back to the prompt. If I check process explorer I can see that the executable is running as a background process and other than this strange background-ness is running as expected.
Any thoughts on why this could be happening? (Running on 32-bit Windows XP Pro SP3.)
It's totally unclear whether this is an application you wrote and have the source code for. If that's the case, you need to get in and start debugging. At the least, use OutputDebugString to send information about what's going on to any number of potential viewers. Taking that a step further, consider rewiring the app using the Console module I wrote, along with vbAdvance to recompile. This combination will allow you the full power of the VB6 IDE to debug within. No more guessing about what's going on.
Then again, if it's not your app, I'm not sure what VB6 has to do with it and wish you the best of luck trying to figure out what's up.
It sounds to me as though the app isn't being recognised as a console app on one of your machines. Console apps weren't officially supported in VB6, although there are some well-known hacks for creating them (particularly the free add-in vbAdvance). Possibly your console app is a bit unreliable? If Windows thinks your app is a GUI rather than a console app, it won't wait for it to finish.
As a pragmatic workaround: try launching with start /wait rather than just using the exename. That forces the command prompt to wait for the program to finish, whether it's a GUI app or a console app.
Sounds like an error is occurring that is being 'swallowed' by the application. Do you have the source code?
Errors in VB6 apps are often due to some COM component not installed and/or registered.
Download SysInternals Process Monitor and this will show up accesses to ProgIDs that fail (uninstalled/unregistered COM components).
Check out: Process Monitor - Hands-On Labs and Examples.
Have you checked permissions? Is the application accessing any network based resources?