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I'm working on UI automation.
We are using the following tools.
Bewildr
Snoop
Our WPF application uses a custom framework developed by the company. Many of the buttons are generated dynamically. For example, the controls that have ID guids, get new ID guids every time I run the program. Many controls don't have names.
Are there any other tools which might be worth a look?
Is this commercial or personal - ie do you have a budget? That'll affect whether you might consider the Mercury or HP suites, or just go straight to opensource ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_GUI_testing_tools provides a good list of GUI testing tools. AutoIT is nice and easy to learn and use, especially if you're a coder anyway. Phantom AL and IcuTest are both useful for WPF applications.
If you have a budget, there's not much better than the Mercury/HP toolsets - QTP (QuickTest Pro) and WinRunner - the former uses VBScript while the later uses a custom Test Script Language - very clever for quickly writing tests.
I won't provide links to them all as the Wiki article already has that, but I hope that helps.
As for targeting the names, hypothetically you could work out the order in which they're being loaded and tab through them that way, ignoring names and guids. Alternatively you could send clicks to targetted coordinates on the app if you know where the buttons are going to be.
Mark,
There's nothing you mention that bewildr can't already do. Even if you don't know the name, id or even the type of object, you can always get elements dynamically using the .children method... See this for a brief intro: http://www.natontesting.com/2010/11/27/bewildr-0-1-7/
...and here for code examples:
https://github.com/natritmeyer/bewildr/blob/82cd1e907484583be26bc22024ca6a8f34c0d6a4/features/step_definitions/hierarchy_steps.rb
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As my knowledge, It depends on which interfaces you are going to test(mobile/web) and you are going to test those applications with code knowledge staff or not.
with less knowledge of coding, mobile testing, cross browsing and ci/cd. you can go with Katalon-studio, yes it's free
or else better to go with Selenium.
https://github.com/last-hit-aab/last-hit is a UI automation testing tool for chrome developer to test their web site without change test script
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I know a good amount PHP, Js, CSS, OOP and have recently honed my regex skills by using the vim editor's netrw and elinks plugins to download a series of web pages (about a million lines) that were parsed and made ready for uploading into my website. I work on a linux/ubuntu system, a localhost setup and this particular project is implementing the Concrete5 cms - which is written in PHP.
Seeing the benefits of scraping and parsing information, I would like to have my site dynamically perform this function, though on a much smaller scale; such as, enabling my new user to transfer their personal information from another website into mine - which will typically be under a secure connection (though not always) and password.
Question: What is the best tool (scripting language) to use for this? I do not know either Perl or Ruby but I believe either one of those would be a good choice. I have also heard AWK and SED. I'm sure I can figure out HOW to do it once I begin studying the language. I would really appreciate some experienced input on which language would be the best to begin investing my time into learning it.
Thanks for your help.
I would strongly recommend Ruby and Capybara for web scraping. (See the non-test related examples toward the bottom of the capybara page). Reasons:
Simple, short scraping syntax, cookie support, js support.
Ruby has many other uses, a friendly syntax, and an active job market.
Capybara has multiple supported drivers. You can run a real browser (visibly), a real browser headlessly (invisibly) so javascript sites work. With the same code, you can toggle the driver to run http requests with no js (mechanize) for speed. This helps you overcome many hurdles (like needing to run JS/Ajax), needing to see the interaction, etc. with a change to a single line of code (Capybara.current_driver = :some_driver).
Drivers: Capybara-Webkit, Capybara-Mechanize
Ability to use CS, or Xpath selectors, whatever you're comfortable with.
Active development, and an ecosystem growing rapidly around the underlying technologies.
Perl has two very nice ready-to-use tools for scraping that I know of: Web::Scraper and Scrappy. Both are able to work with CSS3 and XPath selectors for identifying elements; Scrappy builds on Web::Scraper and adds integrated scraping and crawling, with a nice URL-matching system to select the links to follow to gather more information, (while Web::Scraper works with a single document). It moves between pages using the well-established and robust WWW::Mechanize library, which is smart, reliable, and aware of authentication and cookies.
If you want to get into the lower level yourself, there are a lot of good tools to build on, including the aforementioned WWW::Mechanize, HTML::TreeBuilder, HTML::TreeBuilder::XPath, HTML::TableExtractor and more.
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I'm looking for a tool for automated testing. I will use scripting for testing, rather than just automating, which means that it can't just send some key-presses. It needs to examine the app's window to see if it was updated correctly. The cheaper the better, with no downside limit on cost. ;-)
I need a real language, with functions, variables, loops, branching, etc., and the apps are developed in Delphi.
I need to be able to focus controls*, wait for windows to appear, search for controls/windows, send keyboard input and check that various windows/controls have changed state (e.g a button is now disabled, a text box contains the correct text, a dialog box opens, etc.).
I used to use AutoIt a few years ago and am now coming back to scripting. I wondered if there has been any new development while I was gone.
Any suggestions?
* I do not want to move the cursor to absolute coordinates in case the app's layout changes. This quote from Wikipedia explains why:
Regression testing becomes a problem with GUIs as well. This is because the GUI may change significantly across versions of the application, even though the underlying application may not. A test designed to follow a certain path through the GUI may not be able to follow that path since a button, menu item, or dialog may have changed location or appearance.
I believe you just described TestComplete by SmartBear Software.
Autoit does everything you listed. I use it for the same porpoises all the time. Also, Delphi is good in the sense that uses standard windows controls which makes it very easy to hook into.
I've had some success with sikuli, which has the advantage of being python (jython) code. It is built on top of OpenCV, and uses a full image processing engine to pattern match parts of the screen. It also contains editors and functions for screenshots, waiting on changes, as well as keystroke and mouse injection.
Something different from my other answer: PyWinAuto
It has full scripting (because it's Python), it uses control names instead of X, Y coordinates, it waits for windows and you can send keypresses. And it's free.
The downsides should be obvious :)
To automate a delphi application main problem i found was that the any testing tools (QTP with delphi addon , Test Complete , Testanywhere, autoit, sikuli) they all dont detect any Tlabels and Tlist and and other components, which for an application build in delphi forms a prominent part of the UI. Even to do func based testing we need to ultimately examine a component in the front end to see whether a func is giving right out. Even to right a script to automate we need to first be able to detect and add the object to the repository.
We have an application in which we have heavy dependency on a lot of third party components. I have tried to check feasibility with almost all the tools available in market.
The top two tools in market were of no use.
QTP with Delphi addon is of no use even in there website they have openly mentioned it wont support many classes build in delphi.
TestComplete its better than QTP where in it detects many components menu components and if i remember correctly grid etc.
Then after few googling i found
TestAnywhere which was certainly better in detecting the thirdparty build components. Only problem i found with this was that it was not detecting Tlabel classes and some components dont remember which.
When i speak of detecting components it may be partial or fully ie some tools were able to detect that there is a component at XY co-ordinates but failed to get the component classes or details (like components property name etc) without which it was difficult in automating and writing a script.
Rest all was more or less combination or subset of these above there.
Still Searching !!!!!!!!!!!
With TestComplete, if you compile your app as an open app - i.e. include their libs, it makes your app super inspectable. Great for testing, probably not best for security. Test complete was the best, it is just TOOOO expensive for my budget.
The scripting in it is great, the understanding of Delphi is great. The pricetag is just not great, especially if you are trying to get traction for GUI testing within an org, like it sounds like you are.
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I would like to write a GUI application for management of information (text documents). In more details, it should be similar to the TiddlyWiki. I would like to have there some good visual effects (like nice representation for three structures, which you can rotate, some sound). I also would like to include some communication via Internet (for sharing and collaboration). In should include some features of such applications as a web browser, word processor, Skype.
Which programming language should I use?
I like the idea of usage of JavaScripts (like TddlyWiki). The good thing about that, is that user should not install anything. They open a file in a browser and it works! The bad thing is that JavaScript cannot communicate via internet with other applications.
I think the choice of the programming language, in my case, id conditioned by 2 things:
What can be done with this programming language (which restrictions are there).
How easy to program. I would like to have "block" which can do a lot of things (rather than to program then and, in this way, to "rediscover a bicycle")
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I would like to make it platform independent.
There is no simple solution in 2010.
If you want to make your GUI platform independent, you have these options:
Run it as a JavaScript application inside the browser with a server running a program + database you like. Hard to get to work but the most simple solution for your users. There are good editors like CKEditor but they use HTML underneath, and sometimes, they are slow or weird. Also, they are absolutely unsuited for large amounts of text.
Use Java. Java is available for many platforms but not all. It comes with an UI framework called Swing that could be better. Java offers a huge set of frameworks and libraries. Most are free to use but it will take some time for you to select the best ones in your case. Plus: So far, there are no good text editor components in Java. So you either have to buy one or you must live with some ... oddities.
Use .NET/Mono. Not available right away for many platforms but you can find binary installers for Mono for the major ones (Linux and Mac) and Mono is available as source, so your fans can build versions for their favorite OS themselves. There are pretty good editor components for .NET but almost everything for .NET is either not free (as in freedom) or costs money.
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I've got an idea for an idiotically simple application, one that converts HAML and SASS into HTML & CSS files for the user by watching directory changes (like Compass). Almost all the components are already available in the community, I just need to figure out what to use for the front-end.
The catch:
It must be:
a standalone app (i.e. users must NOT be required to install Ruby or HAML),
that looks good,
and is available in several platforms (linux, mac, windows).
So far I know very little about:
RubyScript2Exe: which packages ruby applications for you
Adobe AIR: desktop-style web-development...but is it easy to integrate with Ruby?
Adobe Flex: Is this only for web-based development?
Java /jRudy: (I get scared just thinking about it)
FXRuby: a ruby GUI toolkit which is unfortunately too old-fashioned (read 'ugly') to attract the audience I'm looking to target (designers and HTML developers....no, I'm not planning to charge for it, just want to make an attractive app)
Shoes: Another ruby-based GUI toolkit that may or may not suffice...is there a GUI
builder for this?
Of course, other options are more than welcome.
If you provide an answer, please be kind enough to also leave a link to a good starter tutorial that integrates Ruby and your technology of choice?
I recently had to decide on a Windowed front end for a simple app. I looked into FXRuby, TKRuby, Shoes and WXRuby.
Shoes was the only one that helped me make my app. The rest were (probably) more powerful but the cost in complexity (compared to Shoes) seemed vast. I had never had to sit down and work with a big ugly window API before and didn't want to learn one just to achieve my simple report generator. It wasn't clear how to take code for these API's and reliably generate an executable. Shoes' built in packager works nicely for me.
The one problem I had with Shoes was the trouble getting documentation. I eventually learned that running shoes -m launches a shoes app which acts as a very useful manual. The official tutorial is a worthwhile (and short) read. That's located here.
Shoes served me well and will be my first port of call on any simple utility i choose to make in the future.
have you had a look at titanium desktop? might be what your looking for
Oh, hotness flows from my pores about this question. I believe the future of the internet lies over thisaway Cappuccino. I know it sounds like a plug but I swear, I'm just impressed as hell by 280slides and Atlas. A web framework that's built using Cocoa's interface builder and can be compiled for both Cocoa natively as well as a kickass web page by a simple drop-down box? Hot hot hot. Boiling maybe?
Limelight is another alternative. It's JRuby based and available as a binary install for Windows and OSX, or as gem for any platform. There is a tutorial and screencast linked on the Limelight homepage.
I haven't used it, but thought it was worth a mention (I did download for Windows, but couldn't get it to launch - I suspect my work proxy is causing problems).
My vote would be for Shoes as well.
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I will start developing my next desktop application in about a month. In the past I have delivered functional software that hasn't wowed anyone, including myself, in the usability or aesthetics department.
Does anybody know of any resources or guides or even books that could showcase examples of good design in desktop software?
There seems to be a lot of resources for web apps, but such resources for desktop applications are rather slim.
I enjoyed these dot net rocks tv videos by Mark Miller on The Science of a Great User Experience really got me thinking about good ui:
http://www.dnrtv.com/default.aspx?showNum=112
http://www.dnrtv.com/default.aspx?showNum=123
Where you can really make a difference with GUI design is if you are addressing a difficult to understand concept in a GUI.
When you are doing that, creativity is critical. When dealing with complex hardware configurations (something I had to do a lot, but probably doesn't apply to you), I've had good luck going to tech manuals and tech support people and trying to completely understand the problem. Then I took the methods they used to show me (diagrams from the manuals, whiteboard drawings, etc) and tried to code them into a GUI.
Had a couple massive successes with this.
Iteration is also critical. Prototype something quickly then beg everyone you see to try it. Ask them to solve a problem, then watch where they go first and watch what they have problems with.
Address every problem and stumbling block.
Don't be afraid to throw it all away and start over, it was only prototype code.
Separate your GUI from your implementation so that you can swap out the GUI if you find a better approach.
If you want to concentrate on just one feature, have a look at ITunes' search box which filters as you type. Other software may have had this before, but this was I think the first place I encountered it.
The difference between this and classic search was an eye opener for me in terms of readability.
Auto-complete which you see in so many places is another one. I'd recommend IntelliJ IDEA for the way it took auto-completion which emacs, Visual studio etc had for ages and added autocompletion for variable names and method names in a manner which almost seemed psychic the first time you encountered it.
You can look at Thirteen23 Experiences
To make things usable, you need to make sure that you follow existing conventions for your target platform and application type.
For example, if you're developing a Windows App you'd better make sure that control-c copies, control-v pastes, control-s saves, etc. The File menu better be the leftmost item in the menu bar, and the Help menu better by the rightmost item.
If you don't follow existing conventions, users are going to get annoyed with your application very quickly.
Google for HIG. Human Interface Guidelines typically include lots of research into best-practice in user interfaces, and explain in great detail how to design each aspect of a program. Also, have a google for "user-interface hall of shame" or something like that.
In this question I mentioned GUI bloopers. Part of great design is knowing what makes bad design and why. It is actually a great book, although I don't know how much of it is available on the website.
You can check case studys on websites of GUI companys. I fund few at www.puzzlehead.com
Check there and also other sites.