I'm new in this, so bear with me. I've been using one MVC framework in a couple of projects lately, and after a while, I'm disillusioned in the perceived usefulness of the 'Model' in MVC.
I get the usefulness of Controllers and Views, I know that separation between presentation and logic is important to make the code more maintainable in the future, although not necessarily faster or more robust.
If all logic should be placed inside the controller in the first place, I don't see any use for Model, especially the Active-Record. We already have a language that is so robust and easy to use to communicate with the database, am I right? It's called SQL. For me when models are implemented like active-record, it's usefulness depends on whether or not you want your app to fit in multiple databases.
So what I'm asking is, if you're only using one database, why bother with Models and Active-Records? Why don't just use SQL? Why the extra layer of complexity? Do you guys have any case studies/real-life stories where models actually can do things better than just using the database class and SQL-away?
Again, I'm sorry if I seem to be so ignorant, but I really don't know why Models are important. Thanks for answering.
First, you are assuming that a model layer necessarily uses some kind of ORM, in order to abstract SQL away. This is not true: you may create a model layer which is loosely-coupled from the Controller layer but tightly-coupled to a particular DBMS, and so avoid using a full-featured ORM.
There are some ORM libraries, like Hibernate (Java), NHibernate (.NET), Doctrine (PHP) or ActiveRecord-Rails (Ruby) that really can generate all actual SQL statements for you; but if you think ORM is unnecessary, and you want to define all SQL statements by hand, don't use them.
Still, IMHO this does NOT mean you should just place all you DB related logic inside the controller layer. This is called the "fat controller" approach, and it is a road that leads, many times, to bloated, unmaintainable code. You could use it for simple CRUD projects, but anything beyond that will demand the existence of a real "Model".
You seem to care about MVC. Please, read also something about TDD. A wise man once said "legacy code is code without tests". When you learn that automated unit tests are as important as the "real" code, you will understand why there are so many layers in an enterprise application, and why your Model layer should be separate from the Controller. A block of code that tries to do everything (presentation, business logic, data persistence) simply cannot be easily tested (nor debugged by the way).
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"Model" is a little bit fuzzy term. Depending from where you look at, it can mean something slightly different. For instance, PHP e Ruby programmers frequently use it as a synonym to an Active Record, which is not accurate. Some other developers seem to believe that a "model" is just some kind of DTO, which is also not right.
I rather use the definition of model as seen in Wikipedia:
The central component of MVC, the model, captures the application's behavior in terms of its problem domain, independent of the user interface. The model directly manages the application's data, logic and rules.
So the Model is the biggest, most important layer in most MVC applications. That's why it is usually divided in sub-layers: Domain, Service, Data Access and so on. The Model is usually exposed through the Domain, because it's there where you'll find the methods that your controller will call. But the Data Access layer belongs to the "Model" too. Anything that is related to data persistence and business logic belongs to it.
In most real-life situations, data that comes from the user doesn't go straight into the database.
It must often be validated, filtered, or transformed.
The role of the model layer is usually to make sure that data arrives properly into the backend store (usually the database) by performing these operations, which should not be the responsibility of the controller (skinny controller, fat model), and not the responsibility of the database engine itself.
In other words, the Model layer is responsible - or `knows' - how the data should be handled.
Most modern MVC frameworks provide ways to specify contracts over the data validity requirements, such as Rails.
Here's an example from http://biodegradablegeek.com/2008/02/introduction-to-validations-validation-error-handling-in-rails/:
class Cat
validates_inclusion_of :sex, :in => %w(M F), :message => 'must be M or F'
validates_inclusion_of :vaccinated, :in => [true,false]
validates_inclusion_of :fiv, :in => [true,false]
validates_inclusion_of :age, :within => 1..30
validates_each :weight do |record, attr, value|
record.errors.add attr, 'should be a minimum of 1 pound' if value and value /^[01][0-9]\/[0-9]{2}\/[0-9]{4}$/
validates_length_of :comment, :allow_blank => true, :allow_nil => true, :maximum => 500
end
Here, several of the data validity requirements cannot be handled by the database, and should not be handled in controllers, because any modification in those requirements might break the code in several places.
Therefore, the model is the best place to make sure data is coherent for your domain.
There's a lot more to be said about it, but I felt like tackling a point that seems important to me, motivated by practical experience :)
It's not an ignorant question at all! Just the fact that you're asking it instead of simply ignoring the whole MVC theory and doing as you please is nice. :-)
To answer your question: conceptually, Models simply provide a nice abstraction for your data. Instead of thinking in terms of "how do I write this inner join to get all the fields I need", models enable you to think in terms of "how are my application's objects related to each other, how do they interact and how can I get the data I need from them".
In the same way that Views and Controllers help you seperate presentation from logic, Models help you seperate the application's logic (from a user's perspective, anyway) from the gritty details as to where your data actually comes from and how it's represented internally.
To give a more specific example (if not completely realistic): in theory, you could write your whole application in a way you fetched all the data through SQL queries. But later you realized you wanted to use some noSQL (CouchDB, etc) engine because you needed horizontal scaling.
With models (and a framework that can use both types of storage, of course :-)) you wouldn't have to worry about the details, as all your important data is already represented in a generic manner through your models and both views and controllers can act upon that representation.
Without them, you'd probably have to rewrite a large chunk of code just to adapt your data fetching to the new backend.
And that's just on the boring storage part. With pure SQL, it's much harder to define the interactions between your application's objects (i.e. the business logic) because you just won't do that in SQL (probably, anyway).
It's not a perfect explanation (far from it), but I hope it helps.
The models should contain all your logic. The controller is only responsible with logic related to user interaction. All the domain-related functionality (what's known as "business logic") should be placed in the model and decoupled from controller code. Like this you can achieve a better separation of concerns and code reusability.
For example, let's say you are writing an application to let users enter information about themselfs and receive diet recomandations.
One the one hand, you would put code related to transforming user provided data into a list of diet recomandations in the model part. This includes database access, but also any calculations , algorithms and processing related to the problem in question (the problem domain).
On the other hand, you put the code to log the users in, show a form, gather the form data, validate it, in the controller. This way for instance you could later add an api to your app (which uses different code for authentication, getting data from the user, validation etc.) and reuse the code to generate the results (from the model).
This is just an example of what the model is good for.
I always relate Model to data irrespective of where it is present or how it is represented. In MVC V displays data and C handles change. Even if you have all the data to be presented on the screen in a HashMap inside your controller; that HashMap will be called the Model.
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Until now, in my MVC application, I've been using the Model mainly just to access the database, and very little else. I've always looked on the Controller as the true brains of the operation. But I'm not sure if I've been correctly utilizing the MVC model.
For example, assume a database of financial transactions (order number, order items, amount, customer info, etc.). Now, assume there is a function to process a .csv file, and return it as an array, to be inserted into the database of transactions.
I've placed my .csv parse function in my Controller, then the controller passes the parsed information to a function in the Model to be inserted. However, strictly speaking, should the .csv parsing function be included in the Model instead?
EDIT: For clarity's sake, I specifically am using CodeIgniter, however the question does pertain to MVC structure in general.
The internet is full of discussion about what is true MVC. This answer is from the perspective of the CodeIgniter (CI) implementation of MVC. Read the official line here.
As it says on the linked page "CodeIgniter has a fairly loose approach to MVC...". Which, IMO, means there aren't any truly wrong ways to do things. That said, the MVC pattern is a pretty good way to achieve Separation of Concerns (SoC) (defined here). CI will allow you to follow the MVC pattern while, as the linked documentation page says, "...enabling you to work in a way that makes the most sense to you."
Models need not be restricted to database functions. (Though if that makes sense to you, then by all means, do it.) Many CI developers put all kinds of "business logic" in Models. Often this logic could just as easily reside in a custom library. I've often had cases where that "business logic" is so trivial it makes perfect sense to have it in a Controller. So, strictly speaking - there really isn't any strictly speaking.
In your case, and as one of the comments suggests, it might make sense to put the CSV functionality into a library (a.k.a. service). That makes it easy to use in multiple places - either Controller or Model.
Ultimately you want to keep any given block of code relevant to, and only to, the task at hand. Hopefully this can be done in a way that keeps the code DRY (Don't Repeat Yourself). It's up to you to determine how to achieve the desired end result.
You get to decide what the terms Model, View, and Controller mean.
As a general rule MVC is popular because it supports separation of concerns, which is a core tenet of SOLID programming. Speaking generically (different flavors support/ recommend different implementations), your model holds your data (and often metadata for how to validate or parse), your view renders your data, and your controller manages the flow of your data (this is also usually where security and validation occur).
In most systems, the Single Responsibility Principle would suggest that while business logic must occur at the controller level, it shouldn't actually occur in the controller class. Typically, business logic is done in a service, usually injected into the controller. The controller invokes the service with data from the model, gets a result that goes into the model (or a different model), and invokes the view to render it.
So in answer to your question, following "best practices" (and I'll put that in quotes because there's a lot of opinions out there and it's not a black and white proposition), your controller should not be processing and parsing data, and neither should your model; it should be invoking the service that processes and parses the data, then returning the results of aforementioned invocation.
Now... is it necessary to do that in a service? No. You may find it more appropriate, given the size and complexity of your application (i.e. small and not requiring regular maintenance and updates) to take some shortcuts and put the business logic into the controller or the model; it's not like it won't work. If you are following or intend to follow the intent of the Separation of Concerns and SOLID principles, however (and it's a good idea on larger, more complex projects), it's best to refactor that out.
Back to the old concept of decomposing the project logic as Models and Business Logic and the Data Access Layer.
Models was the very thin layer to represent the objects
Business Logic layer was for validations and calling the methods and for processing the data
Data Access Layer for connecting the database and to provide the OR relation
in the MVC, and taking asp.net/tutorials as reference:
Models : to store all the object structure
View: is like an engine to display the data was sent from the controller ( you can think about the view as the xsl file of the xml which is models in this case)
Controller: the place where you call the methods and to execute the processes.
usually you can extend the models to support the validations
finally, in my opinion and based on my experience, most of the sensitive processes that take some execution time, I code it on the sql server side for better performance, and easy to update the procedures in case if any rule was injected or some adjustments was required, all mentioned can be done without rebuilding your application.
I hope my answer gives you some hints and to help you
If your CSV processing is used in more than one place, you can use a CI library to store the processing function. Or you can create a CSV model to store the processing function. That is up to you. I would initially code this in the controller, then if needed again elsewhere, that is when I would factor it out into a library.
Traditionally, models interact with the database, controllers deal with the incoming request, how to process it, what view to respond with. That leaves a layer of business logic (for instance your CSV processing) which I would put in a library, but many would put in its own model.
There is no hard rule about this. MVC, however it was initially proposed, is a loose term interpreted differently in different environments.
Personally, with CI, I use thin controllers, fat models that also contain business logic, and processing logic like CSV parsing I would put in a library, for ease of reuse between projects.
I've worked with OOP for a while now, and have gotten into the habit of creating classes for 'things', such as person, account, etc. I was coding in Java for this.
Recently I begun to work with MVC (in PHP), and I've come to realise that, contrary to what I originally thought, the model is not like an OOP class - feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the model is simply an interface between the controller and the database (maybe with data processing - more on this below). My reason for thinking this stems from my recent messing around with the CodeIgniter framework for PHP. CI doesn't allow for instances of models. Rather, it's a singleton pattern, and in most tutorials I've seen, it's used only for database queries and sometimes some static method.
Now, coming from OOP, I've gotten into the habit of having classes where the data is stored and able to be manipulated (an OOP class). My issue is that in MVC, I'm not sure where this takes place, if it does (I initially thought 'class' was synonymous with 'model'). So, I guess what I'm looking for is someone to explain to me:
Where does the manipulation of data (business logic) take place? I've read many articles and posts, and it seems some prefer to do it in the controller, and others in the model. Is one of these more correct than the other in terms of MVC?
Where/how do I store data for use within my application, such as that from a database or JSON/XML files returned from an API call? I'm talking things that would usually be attributes in an OOP class. Does this even still take place, or is it straight from the database to the view without being stored in variables in a class?
If you could link me to any guides/sites that may help me to understand this all better, I would appreciate it.
Representing MVC in terms of classes, you can say that:
Model - A class which stores/provides data.
View - A class which provides functionality to display the provided data in a particular fashion.
Controller - A class which controls that how the data is manipulated and passed around.
MVC design is adopted to provide facility to easily replace any of the module (Model/View/Controller) without affecting the other. In most cases, it is the view which gets changed (like same data represented in form of graphs, chats) but other modules must also be made independent of others.
This is an interesting question, and you often hear contrary things about how clean and stripped down models should be vs them actually doing everything you'd think they should do. If I were you I'd take a look at data mappers. Tons of people much smarter than I have written on the subject, so please do some research, but I'll see if I can summarize.
The idea is that you separate out your concept of a model into two things. The first is the standard model. This simple becomes a property bag. All it does is have a state that often reflects your database data, or what your database data will be once saved, or however you use it.
The second is a data mapper. This is where you put the heavy-lifting stuff. It's job becomes providing a layer between your pure model, and the database, that's it. It talks to the database, retrieves data specific to your model, and maps it to the model. Or it reads the model, and writes that data to the database. Or it compares the model's data with that of the DB.
What this does is it allows each layer to concern itself with only one thing. The model only has to keep a state, and be aware of its state. Or have some functionality related to the model that does not involve the database or storage. Now the model no longer cares about talking to the database which is hugely freeing! Now if you ever switch to a different database, or you switch to cookies or storing things in files or caching or any other form of persistence, you never need to change your models. All you have to change is the mapping layer that communicates between your models and the DB.
Should methods that manipulate the Model class members be implemented in the Model or in the Controller? Does it depend on how "heavy" this manipulation is ?
By "manipulation" I mean:
get a class member
make a long calculation based upon this class member
return another value which relates to this class
For example, a Board class which hold a cell matrix member.
Now I want to implement a method which returns all the surrounding cells according to specific cell location.
Is the model or view responsible to for implementing the above ?
If this question belongs to another Stack Exchange QA site I will welcome the recommendation to move my post to that site.
Keep your controllers thin, don't let them do much, this aligns with the Single Responsibility Principle in SOLID for Object Oriented Design. If you have fat controllers, they become hard to test and maintain.
As for the models, I used to have dumb models before that did nothing but to map to database tables and that was inspired by most of the sample applications that you see on the web, but now I don't do that.
I (try to) follow the principles from Domain Driven Design, where models (entities in DDD terms) are at the center of the application, they are expected to encapsulate behaviour related to the entity, they are smart models (so yes, the logic related to an object will live with it in that case). DDD is a much bigger topic and it is not related directly to MVC, but the principles behind it helps you better design your applications, there is a lot of materials and sample apps available if you google DDD.
Additionally, Ruby On Rails community - which seems to inspire most of MVC frameworks - also seems to have a hype around having Fat Models and Skinny Controllers.
On top of that, you can add View Models to your mix which I find helpful. In this case, you can have a ViewModel to represent a dumb subset of your model(s) just to use for generating the view, it makes your life easier and further separate your Views from your Models so that they don't affect your design decisions unnecessarily.
What you call "model" is are actually domain objects. The actual model in MVC is just a layer, not concrete thing.
In your particular example, the Board should have a method that returns this list. I assume, that you are actually acquiring it because you then need to do further interaction with those cells.
This is where the services within the model layer comes in to play. If you use them, they are the outer part of model layer and contain the application logic - interaction between different domain objects and the interaction between the persistence (usually either data mappers or units of work) and domain objects.
Let's say you are making a game, and you and player performs and AoE attack. Controller takes a hold of service, which is responsible for this functionality and sends a command: this player aimed AoE in this direction, perform it.
Service instantiates Board and asks for surrounding cells of the target location. Then it performs "damage" on every cell in the collection that it acquired. After the logic is done, it tell the Unit of Work instance to commit all the changes, that happened on the Board.
Controller does not care about the details of what service does. And it should not receive any feedback. When execution gets to the view, it request from model layer the latest changes and modifies the UI. As the added benefit - services let you stop the business logic from leaking in the presentation layer (mostly made up from views an controllers).
The domain object should contain only methods, that deal with their state.
I think this has little to do with MVC, and a lot more to do with regular software engineering.
I personally wouldn't hesitate to stick trivial calculations in a model, but would be extremely wary of fat models.
Now, the fact that MVC stands for Model View Controller doesn't necessarily mean that everything should be either a view, a model or a controller. If you feel the need to move responsibilities to a separate class that doesn't really qualify as an M, a V or a C, I don't see why you shouldn't do it.
The way you implement it is up to you. You could either use this separate class as a "top level" (for lack of a better term) object, or make a method of the model delegate to it, so as to hide the fact that you're using it. I would probably go for the latter.
Everything is debatable, though. Everybody and their sister seem to have a different opinion on how to do MVC right.
Me, I just consider it a guideline. Sure, it's a great idea because it leads you to a better separation of concern, but in the end—as it always happens—there's no one-size-fits-all way to apply it, and you should not be overly constrained by it, to the point where everything has to be either a view, a model or a controller.
As per best practice we should use properties for Calculated fields with get access only. example public double TotalCost {
get
{
return this.Role.Cost * TotalHour;
}
}
I just found web2py a couple days ago, and have been reading the documentation and through the source of a few example applications. I want to start programming more in Python. It seems that my take on MVC is a little skewed from theirs [web2py community].
After learning and working with PHP (and the Kohana framework), I'm used to the thin controller - fat model principle, where all business logic is placed in the model and the controller does nothing more than delegate what methods to perform on the model, and then passes data onto the view for rendering. However, it seems that 99% of the applications I've seen for web2py have fat controllers (putting all business logic in the actions), and the models are nothing more than table/constraint definitions.
I'm pretty well set on my view of a model, and I would rather put the business logic in the models (for re-usability and DRY code) but I haven't seen any code online that does this, although, to be fair, I haven't found an ample amount of applications. Can somebody point me in the right direction.
To be clear, I would like to make my models actual classes and encapsulate all business logic and database interactions into explicit methods. Something along the lines of...
class Article(object):
def get_article(self, id):
# Retrieve article by id, using db instance
pass
def get_latest_articles(self, limit):
# Retrieve latest articles
pass
def get_hot_articles(self, limit):
# Retrieve hot articles, based on algorithm for "hot"
pass
def create_article(self, data):
# Insert article
pass
def define_tables(self):
# Define schema the web2py way
pass
I haven't found the right way to do this.
I'm not very well rehearsed on web2py, but I know there are a lot of features. The DAL, for instance, seems to be a very powerful feature which is tightly integrated with other helpers. I wonder if splitting my business logic as stated above would limit any of these features?
I think part of the difference is that web2py uses a DAL (database abstraction layer) rather than an ORM. You might find this explanation helpful. As it points out, in some cases, computed fields or virtual fields may do what you want. Also, some of the methods defined in your example class would be quite simple DAL statements and would probably not be worth writing methods for.
Of course, if you want, you can define classes and functions in your models (or modules) and simply call them from your controllers -- whatever works best for you.
I am new to MVC but I can already see its benefits and advantages. However, I have a (probably easy to answer) design question:
I have been thinking about models and debating the proper way to structure them. The way I see it there are a few options:
1) Models and table structure have a 1 to 1 relationship...meaning that pretty much for every table there is a corresponding model. The model class has attributes corresponding to the table columns and has whatever methods that are needed (like getters and setters) to manipulate data in the table in whatever way is necessary. This seems like the generic option and I guess I would then have the controller call the models as necessary to perform whatever business function is necessary.
2) Models are tied more closely to the operation of the business logic rather than the data: so for example if on the front end a deletion of a certain object affects multiple tables, the model then 'models' this behavior and interacts with several tables and performs the necessary function. The controller then simply needs to call a single model for whatever business behavior is desired. This is less generic since the models are much more tightly coupled..but seems quicker to implement.
3) Something in between the first 2 options. Or maybe I am completely missing the point.
Hopefully this makes sense! If I am not totally missing the point, I am inclined to think that option (1) is better. Any idea?
Edit: Not that it should matter, but I plan on using Codeigniter PHP MVC framework.
Both are valid implementations, and, depending on your needs, can work well.
Your #1 is essentially describing the Active Record pattern, which is used by SubSonic, Castle, and lots of other ORM implementations.
Your #2 is essentially describing the Entity Framework/Hibernate/LightSpeed approach, where you are dealing with objects that are more conceptually related to your domain rather than to tables. Instead of your objects containing foreign key ID properties, they actually contain the other domain object references, which are then instantiated in an on-access basis.
Both ways are great. The Active Record approach is usually more intuitive for beginners and has potentially less pitfalls. EF-style can save a lot of base-level coding and dealing with FK's directly in code.
Edit: To be clear, what you describe in both situations is data access layer related, rather then strictly model related. However in reality you're pretty close, as most models tend to simply represent one or more of these types of objects.
All of the above.
The approach you use depends on your design philosophy. If you prefer to design your application using business domains and drive that into the database design, then you favor the second approach. If you prefer to build your database first, and then create model classes from the database schema, then you favor the first approach. Both methods are valid ways to build software.
Number 1 is the way to go. Option 2 is really the controller's job. For example, the controller then takes the models and performs actions on them, and passes the results to the view.
Think of it this way:
Model = your data
Controller = business logic
View = display of data and actions
This is highly simplistic, but it's how I picture it in my mind when I go to design a system.
Think of the database as the Model, the business logic as the Controller, and the UI as the View. That may help. It's an overly simplified approach to things, but it gets the data / behavior separation roughly correct.
I don't think it has to be an either/or situation. Your first point is what would be called a Model, but your 2nd point sounds like a View Model, which is most often a composition of various Models and parts of Models that will be sent to the view. The controller is responsible for doing that composition and potentially decomposition when information is sent back from the View.