I have been looking at Hulu's new website and I am very impressed from a developer's standpoint (as well as a designer's).
I have found that, unless you switch between http/https, you are served content entirely from json requests. That is a HUGE feat to have this level of ajax while maintaining browse back button support as well as allowing each url to be visited directly.
I want to create a website like this as a learning experience. Is there any type of framework out there that can give me this kind of support?
I was thinking I could...
leverage jQuery
use clientside MVVM frameworks like KnockoutJS?
use ASP.NET MVC content negotiation to serve html or json determined by an accept header.
using the same codebase.
use the same template for client side and server side rendering
provide ways to update pagetitle/meta tags/etc.
Ajax forms/widgets/etc would still be used, by I am thinking about page level ajax using json and client side templates.
What do you think? Any frameworks out there? Any patterns I could follow?
It is always best to first build a website without AJAX support, then add AJAX on top of that. Doing this means that:
users without javascript can already access your website
users can already visit any URL directly.
Adding AJAX support can be accomplished by various javascript libraries. So that you can render json content, you will want to look at javascript templating. You will want to use javascript templating even on your server side for when you add AJAX support (file extension .ejs). This will probably require some appropriate libraries to run javascript on the server.
When you add AJAX support, you will want to use the "History.js" library for browser back/forward/history support.
Make no mistake. This is a HUGE project (unless your website only has a few pages). So it is going to take a LONG time to add all the AJAX support to the best possible standard.
to answer your bullet point about using the same template server side as well as client side: check outdust. It was originally developed by akdubya, but has since been adopted and enhanced by linkedin. They use it to render templates on their mobile app client side. Personally I've used it on the server side and it works great.
Related
Non-SPA AJAX Partials for SEO
Sadly, 101% of the Angular SEO examples assume the use of a singe-page-application (SPA). My app is not a SPA. Currently, my stack is:
Node/Express - for routing and rendering Jade templates. The URLs are real, and don't use HTML pushstate, hash-bang or anything similar. for this reason, url-escaped-fragment won't work for me (I don't think)
Angular for communicating with my RESTful API(s)
My problem is that my page itself only includes pieces that are loaded via AJAX—the rest of page is rendered server side. Node/Express is not responsible for any of this logic, Angular pulls in the data that will be in my first h1.
Google Bot and similar see: <h1>{{this_unrendered_string}}</h1> which is no good.
Has anyone come up with any clever solutions for working around this scenario?
FWIW I found a service called SEO.js that will host a rendered version of any page I pass to it. If I could just tell GoogleBot and similar "Hey, don't use this page, use this page instead" But I'm not entirely sure how SEO feels about a different host serving content. Maybe some trickery could work here..
Google have documented an approach to "Making AJAX Applications Crawlable" here. https://developers.google.com/webmasters/ajax-crawling/
Implementing this isn't completely simple (basically you have to run a headless browser and return the HTML snapshots in response to specially formatted requests by Google).
It's not a simple as just returning a snapshot when you detect GoogleBot, but doing it this way probably eliminates any risk of being penalized.
There are a few companies that offer this a service - I'm getting on well with this one: https://ajaxsnapshots.com - they say that Bing and Yandex (Russian search engine) support it too.
AjaxSnapshots have an API you can use to tell them when your page is ready to snapshot - you could call that after all of your client side rendering is done.
I need for users to upload files (mostly images) without leaving the current webpage. What's the best tool, library or mechanism for doing this? I'm using the latest jQuery and Spring webmvc (with JSP), so if there's already a mechanism within them then that's ideal.
It would also be really great to have some kind of progress bar. Does that mean it requires coordination with the server to read the progress (where Spring would have to come into play)? Or is there a mechanism within JavaScript for this?
You should check out Plupload.
Plupload offers a cross-browser
JavaScript File uploading API that
handles multiple file uploads,
client-side progress meters, type
filtering and even client-side image
resizing and drag-and-drop from the
desktop. It achieves all of this by
providing backends for Flash,
Silverlight, Google Gears, HTML5 and
Browserplus and picking the most
capable available option.
Its really neat! Here's a link to some of their Demos...
http://www.plupload.com/example_jquery_ui.php
... and a screenshot of the jQuery UI queue widget (it has a progress bar!):
I hope this helps.
Hristo
I use uploadify pretty regularly: http://www.uploadify.com/
However it does use flash for the upload mechanism and as a result may create some issues if the user is authenticated.
You should use AJAX on the client side
http://www.webtoolkit.info/ajax-file-upload.html This tutorial covers all client side.
Om the server side
This tutorlal covers most of this issue:
http://www.ioncannon.net/programming/975/spring-3-file-upload-example/
Yopu can use jquery as well or any other JS framework.
But the mist important thing is the fact You need to remember that your tag on client side should have.
enctype='multipart/form-data'
property. it means that your request contains muultipart data.
Uploadify does that trick > http://www.uploadify.com/
All samples are php but you should be able to convert it to your platform.
What do i need to do for putting ajax functionality to my project.
What tool kit do i need to download or how can i integrate that .
and do i really need to do something for putting update panel for my project?
One method for AJAX enabling your ASP sites is using the AJAX control toolkit (http://www.asp.net/ajax/ajaxcontroltoolkit/samples/) which provides some AJAX functionality using ASP controls that should be familiar to a novice Dot Net developer. AJAX Control Toolkit is a DLL you add to your solution just like other controls. There is then markup for use in the ASP.NET pages.
For more customized and advanced AJAX features, your best bet is using JQuery (http://jquery.com/) and create *.asmx Web Services. JQuery includes a $.ajax() call that will communicate to ASP.NET Web Services using JSON. This SO page may help - Calling ASMX from jQuery and this Encosia blog entry may help - http://encosia.com/2008/03/27/using-jquery-to-consume-aspnet-json-web-services/. JQuery is a library of JavaScript files that you download, include in your page, and call into using your own JavaScript files.
I would also recommend that you read the wikipedia entry for AJAX (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_(programming)) and familiarize yourself with the related technologies.
I think you need to provide a lot more information before we can give youa definitive answer.
Ajax is simply using Javascript to request a webpage - same as a user clicking on a link - except that JavaScript gets the contents of the page requested instead of showing it to the user.
This allows you to request data within JavaScript without refreshing the page.
As you mentioned UpdatePanel, I'm assuming you're using ASP.Net - In which case, .Net 2.0 didn't include AJAX and you needed to get some additional installs to make it work. 3.5 and later includes it natively.
If you're just starting to get into the whole area, I suggest you do some reading about how AJAX works behind the scenes before trying to use it - Understanding what its doing will save you a LOT of headaches later.
FWIW you don't actually need ANYTHING special to make AJAX work - you can write it yourself entirely in JavaScript (I've done this far too many times). As mentioned in Doug's answer, JQuery is fantastic and is worth using even without the AJAX functionality.
If, however, you want to use UpdatePanels and AJAX, the easiest option is .Net 3.5 or later (Visual Studio 2008 or later)
In my opinion, jQuery has the best AJAX functionality and is easy to learn and use. It's got great documentation and there are lots of tutorials and examples -- I love it.
I have no idea about AJAX programming features. I just know that it is Asynchronous Javascript and XML.
Please help me in knowing about this language.
I have gone through many AJAX tutorials. But none of the programs are running. Why I don't know.
Do we save the file with .HTML extension?
Read:
AJAX Tutorial by W3Schools.
AJAX Programming by Google Code University
To start coding you can get the Ajax Control Toolkit by Microsoft. You should read Ajax Control Toolkit Tutorials to get a grasp of it.
You can use the free Microsoft Visual Web Developer 2010 Express Edition as your IDE.
Aside from the correct responses that the others gave you, judging from your question I think you first need to learn about client-side and server-side code.
Do we save the file with .HTML extension?
Yes and no. You will have an HTML frontend, that for instance contains a button. This will be interpreted from the client's (=user) browser. In fact it may be rendered differently depending on the browser/OS/etc.
Now, you attach some Javascript code to this button. This also runs on the client's browser, and creates a XMLHttpRequest object, either directly or through the use of a library (JQuery & Co.). Note that a library is not necessary to do an AJAX request. It will make your life easier if you do a lot of AJAX calls, but it is not essential.
And here's where the magic happens: the XMLHttpRequest object will call asynchronously (i.e.: without reloading the page) a server-side page. This may be a PHP, ASP, Perl etc etc file that does something on the server, for instance queries a database. This part of the operation is absolutely independent from the client. The user can close the browser before the server-side code finishes to load and the server will not know about it.
Once the server-side code has finished executing it returns to the client with some response data (e.g. a piece of XML, JSON, HTML or whatever you like). Finally the client executes (or not) some other Javascript code in response to this, for example to write on the screen, again with no reloading of the page, something based on what the server has returned.
Maybe I can help you understand AJAX by clarifying the concepts a bit.
Please help me in knowing about this language.
AJAX is not a language, it is a way of using existing techniques to improve the user experience of a web site. The language is Javascript in the browser but you can use any server side technique that you feel comfortable with (ASP.NET, Java, PHP, Ruby etc.)
Do we save the file with .HTML extension?
Well, that is not really the point. What you have to grasp here is that there is a server and a browser that interact with each other. Yes, you can use static HTML files for your pages (and save them as .html files), but you'll need a server to respond to the requests of the browser. This may be why your sample code is not working; you need to set up a server that works with your pages.
The whole idea behind AJAX is to improve the user experience by not reloading the entire page when a user interacts with it. You request the data you need and update the page by using Javascript to update the HTML. This is called an out-of-band or asynchronous request.
I just know that it is Asynchronous Javascript and XML.
That is what the acronym stands for but it doesn't quite cover what the technique is for, nor is it accurate any more. In the beginning XML was used to transfer data from the server to the client. People found that XML is not really that easy to work with in Javascript so now it's more common to use JSON. JSON is a snippet of javascript that can be evaluated in the browser. The snippet creates javascript object(s) that represent the data.
If you use a Javascript library, like others have suggested here, you won't have to worry about many of the details though.
Before you get into AJAX you should make sure that you understand:
HTML and CSS
Javascript
how to modify HTML with Javascript
how a browser requests information from a server
how to handle requests on the server
If you are not comfortable with all of these concepts, stick with 'regular' web pages and try to improve your knowledge step by step.
Once you get the basic knowledge from W3school, I suggest you use a framework. Usually developers do not use XMLHttpRequest at all. Instead, javascript frameworks like ExtJS, jQuery and other frameworks make your work simple. I suggest you learn bit of javascript as well. check out jQuery.
Just to add that AJAX is rarely used in its pure form with XMLHttpRequest. You will often use it as a part of AJAX UI libraries which make your life easier. If you are from the Java world - such an AJAX library is Richfaces.
Instead of worrying about how to do AJAX, use something that allows you to forget about it. Frameworks like NOLOH do AJAX (and Comet) for you automatically without you having to do a thing. Just concentrate on your application, and business logic and it does the rest.
Really, everything is done via AJAX if available, automatically. No work on your part. If you're don't want to spend much time researching it, check out this short video that was demonstrated at Confoo PHP Conference this past March http://www.youtube.com/phpframework#p/u/11/cdD9hSuq7aw.
For all those worried about, well, if it's all AJAX, what about search engines? No need to worry, http://dev.noloh.com/#/articles/Search-Engine-Friendly/.
So instead of having to worry about all these different technologies, or the client-server relationship, you can sit down, code and have your website/WebApp working in no time.
You can read about NOLOH is this month's cover story of php|architect magazine, http://www.phparch.com/magazine/2010/may/.
Enjoy.
Disclaimer: I'm a co-founder of NOLOH.
It is easy one. Ajax getting data from server side by client side execution. We have to do use XMLHttpRequest to get the result.
I am trying to find the optimal architecture for an ajax-heavy Django application I'm currently building. I'd like to keep a consistent way of doing forms, validation, fetching data, JSON message format but find it exceedingly hard to find a solution that can be used consistently.
Can someone point me in the right direction or share their view on best practice?
I make everything as normal views which display normally in the browser. That includes all the replies to AJAX requests (sub pages).
When I want to make bits of the site more dynamic I then use jQuery to do the AJAX, or in this case AJAH and just load the contents of one of the divs in the sub page into the requesting page.
This technique works really well - it is very easy to debug the sub pages as they are just normal pages, and jQuery makes your life very easy using these as part of an AJA[XH]ed page.
For all the answers to this, I can't believe no one's mentioned django-piston yet. It's mainly promoted for use in building REST APIs, but it can output JSON (which jQuery, among others, can consume) and works just like views in that you can do anything with a request, making it a great option for implementing AJAX interactions (or AJAJ [JSON], AJAH, etc whatever). It also supports form validation.
I can't think of any standard way to insert ajax into a Django application, but you can have a look to this tutorial.
You will also find more details on django's page about Ajax
Two weeks ago I made a write up how I implement sub-templates to use them in "normal" and "ajax" request (for Django it is the same). Maybe it is helpful for you.
+1 to Nick for pages displaying normally in the browser. That seems to be the best starting point.
The problem with the simplest AJAX approaches, such as Nick and vikingosegundo propose, is that you'll have to rely on the innerHTML property in your Javascript. This is the only way to dump the new HTML sent in the JSON. Some would consider this a Bad Thing.
Unfortunately I'm not aware of a standard way to replicate the display of forms using Javascript that matches the Django rendering. My approach (that I'm still working on) is to subclass the Django Form class so it outputs bits of Javascript along with the HTML from as_p() etc. These then replicate the form my manipulating the DOM.
From experience I know that managing an application where you generate the HTML on the server side and just "insert" it into your pages, becomes a nightmare. It is also impossible to test using the Django test framework. If you're using Selenium or a similar tool, it's ok, but you need to wait for the ajax request to go return so you need tons of sleeps in your test script, which may slow down your test suite.
If the purpose of using the Ajax technique is to create a good user interface, I would recommend going all in, like the GMail interface, and doing everything in the browser with JavaScript. I have written several apps like this using nothing but jQuery, state machines for managing UI state and JSON with ReST on the backend. Django, IMHO, is a perfect match for the backend in this case. There are even third party software for generating a ReST-interface to your models, which I've never used myself, but as far as I know they are great at the simple things, but you of course still need to do your own business logic.
With this approach, you do run into the problem of duplicating code in the JS and in your backend, such as form handling, validation, etc. I have been thinking about solving this with generating structured information about the forms and validation logic which I can use in JS. This could be compiled at deploy-time and be loaded as any other JS file.
Also, avoid XML. The browsers are slow at parsing it, it is a pain to generate and a pain to work with in the browser. Use JSON.
Im currently testing:
jQuery & backbone.js client-side
django-piston (intermediate layer)
Will write later my findings on my blog http://blog.sserrano.com