I have a Topic that has two subscribers. However, one of the subscribers will be deployed in a cluster. So, in effect (I think?) the cluster will be seen as multiple subscribers.
I need to make sure only one message is consumed by the cluster.
I do not know the options to do this.
Is it possible to insert a queue in between the cluster and the topic, and then have the clustered application only work with the inserted queue?
If this is possible, how, in general, to make the queue "subscribe" to the Topic?
Another idea I heard is to make cloned subscribers in the cluster, anyone hear of this before to solve this issue?
Another idea is to do away with the Topic and just use two queues in its place, this seems to be a safe solution?
Using WebSphere MQ
You can use a durable subscription to achieve this.
Administratively create a durable subscription and specify a destination, basically a queue, which will receive the publications that are published on the specified topic. Your clustered application can then get messages from that destination. Since the publications are being received from a queue, only one instance of your application will get message(s).
The command below creates durable subscription for topic "/SPORTS/HOCKEY" with destination queue as Q1.
DEFINE SUB(SPORTSUB) TOPICSTR(/SPORTS/HOCKEY) TOPICOBJ(SPORT) DESTQ(Q1)
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If a publisher publish some messages to a WMQ topic, but the subsciber didn't take it, then where the messages are saved? is there any way to know the message count?
As MQ is JMS compliant, the answer is mostly a JMS answer.
If the subscription is not durable and no subscription is registered, the messages for that subscriber are discarded.
If the subscription is durable, MQ creates a queue (or uses a predefined one if specified by the subscriber) to deliver the messages. The messages will collect there if the subscriber is not consuming them.
The 3rd case as Dave points out int he comments is that the non-durable subscriber is holding the subscription open but not consuming the messages. Since a queue is created to receive these that queue depth can be queried to determine if there's a back-up.
Based on there being a queue for every subscription (durable or otherwise) just look in the durable subscriber's queue to determine the number of messages outstanding.
Please also see Publish/subscribe lifecycles in the MQ Knowledge Center for more description of the behavior and specification of durable subscriber queues.
Of course, if that queue fills up the behavior changes. Depending on the settings either the publishers block or the publications continue but the messages are routed to an exception queue (if specified), the DLQ, or discarded.
Thanks Dave Ware for the comments about non-durable subscriptions.
I'm wondering from the question if you're asking if MQ keeps a store of all the messages published to a topic, independent of any registered subscriptions?
If that's the question, then no, it doesn't. When messages are published they are matched to each existing subscription and a copy is sent to each of their associated queues as T.Rob describes.
So the only queue depths to worry about are those of the subscriptions.
(There is a caveat in that MQ supports "retained publications", - it means MQ keeps just the most recent publication on that topic string for late subscriptions if you choose to do that).
I try to explain all this here (slides/video), which may help... http://www.slideshare.net/DavidWare1/ame-2271-mq-publish-subscribe-pdf
I am still learning about this activemq and jms stuff.
I already tried some example and now I can produce and consuming message from the queue/topic.
Now I have a problem, when my client/consumer lost the connection, the message in queue/topic still send out that message, that message become lost and not kept in the queue/topic. So my question is how I can keep that failed message and how to make the broker resend that message again?
thanks
You are mixing up terminology a bit.
Queues will hold messages until consumed or the broker is restarted, unless the message has been marked as persistent, in which case they will stick around even after a broker restart.
Topics only deliver the current message to any current subscriber. However there are several methods you can use to persist messages published to a topic:
Durable subscribers.
Virtual Destinations .
Virtual Topics tend to be popular for many reasons over durable subscribers, but it really depends on the use-case.
How you create a durable subscriber depends on what you are using to create the subscriber (Spring, POJO, some other API?). All methods will at some point call the Session.createDurableSubscriber method, but I suggest reading up on how they behave before choosing this over Virtual Topic or Composite Queues.
The thing which you are looking for might be Durable subscription
You can find documentation for same at http://activemq.apache.org/how-do-durable-queues-and-topics-work.html
I'm using ActiveMQ JMS implementation with Spring, and just switched from queue model to topic model, because my JMS clients increased from one to many. Topic subscribers should be durable, because clients may become unavailable in some circumstances.
I don't understand when does a persistent message get removed from a topic. Underlying engine is not aware how many subscribers may receive from that topic, so when does it remove the message from its internal database? Is it done in a time-based manner?
If you register a new durable subscriber to a topic, the broker server will keep track of that subscription and keep the messages around until every single subscriber (with a unique subscriber id) has successfully consumed the message.
It's pretty similar to have the message copied to a unique queue per receiver.
Underlying engine is not aware how many subscribers may receive from that topic
-- Yes it is aware, since the subscriptions are durable
I used the Subscriber SYSTEM.JMS.D.SUBSCRIBER.QUEUE and Client ID as setClientID("USER1") and used topicSubscriber = topicSession.createDurableSubscriber(topic,"SUB1");
The topicSubscriber is created and while trying to receive using this topicSubscriber.receive(); , it is not receiving the messages from topic , but there are messages in topic.
Can any one say why its not receiving messages and whether i need to chek any queue configurations.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
I already had topicConnection.Start() in my coding , also i checked in TopicSession there is no Start() Method.
The same code with Non durable subscriber method topicSession.createSubscriber(topic); is working , but for durable it is not working.
Thanks
Sorry, yes I meant topicConnection.Start(). It was worth a check.
I got the answer for durable subscriber not working ,
My queue depth has reached the max queue depth , so the subscriber is not able to subscribe the message.
Eg . my max queue depth for queue SYSTEM.JMS.D.SUBSCRIBER.QUEUE is set to 100 , and if we check our current queue depth and if it reaches 100 the subscriber will not work.
As an alternative way iam trying to create with Temporary Topic , here iam getting an error while creating the durable subscriber topicSession.createDurableSubscriber(topic,"SUB1");
JMS Exception :: javax.jms.InvalidDestinationException: MQJMS0003:
Destination not understood or no longer valid
Can anyone help to solve this error.
Thanks in Advance.
The problem seems to be how you are using SYSTEM.JMS.D.SUBSCRIBER.QUEUE. You appear to be directing messages and subscribers to this queue as the destination for a durable subscription. IBM MQ uses that queue to manage durable subscriptions.
As a general rule, queues whose names begin with SYSTEM are for internal system use by MQ. Some of them, such as SYSTEM.ADMIN.*.EVENT are OK to get messages from but you would not use these as a subscription destination for unrelated messages either.
Many tutorials use SYSTEM.DEFAULT.LOCAL.QUEUE as a destination for messages but this is only because the queue is known to exist on all versions of MQ and MQ uses only the definition of the queue and never the content of that queue. It is easier for the tutorial writer (and IBM is just as guilty here) to point at SYSTEM.DEFAULT.LOCAL.QUEUE then to walk the student through the need for and means to create their own queue. So although best practices suggest it should not be an exception to the "do not use SYSTEM objects" rule, common usage makes SYSTEM.DEFAULT.LOCAL.QUEUE the de facto exception.
The other exceptions are, of course, the command queues for MQ, MFT and IIB. These are also names SYSTEM.* but are designed for users to communicate with the software listening on the queue.
Note that all the exceptions "do not use SYSTEM objects" rule are interfaces between applications and MQ system resources. The event queues are MQ sending information to the user. The command queues are the user sending information to the system components. A subscription is neither of these categories. A destination for a subscription is considered an application-owned object, even when the system manages it on behalf of the subscriber.
When you want a durable subscription, either let the system assign a permanent queue and use that, or else pre-define a queue (that is not named SYSTEM.*) and use that. Whatever else you do, please do NOT try to hijack MQ's internal system queues for application-level purposes.
I need some help with topics and selectors.
I have a scenario with a topic having multiple durable subscribers (each with a selector)
not all messages going into the topic aren't read by the consumers - because of unmatching selectors.
This is correct behavior.
However the problem occurs when the unmatched messages reach a certain quantity threshold, because at that point no other messages are being delivered to the consumers
activemq tries to dispatch those old unmatchable messages, but since there is no consumer for them everything is stuck
can anybody help with this?
My setup is ActiveMq 5.5
is there some configuration option, or is it just a flawed design?
I'd say this is a flawed design given there are better alternatives and perhaps a bug in ActiveMQ.
First question: is your producer publishing to this topic setting the JMSExpiration header on those messages?
If yes, the first thing I'd do is create a Jira issue detailing the scenario you described above, because it does seem incorrect that ActiveMQ will continue hold on to and continue send messages for which no selectors apply.
As for flawed design, the minute you hear yourself saying "I need durable subscribers" and you are using ActiveMQ, you should immediately turn to using Virtual Destinations instead. Virtual Destinations have the advantages of topics in that a producer can send a message to a destination and have that message propagated to N number of other destinations for consumption, but doesn't have the disadvantages that come with having durable subscribers on a topic. Read more about Virtual Destinations here.
This is related to the way that ActiveMQ handles sparse selectors. The current implementation doesn't page into the store to look for message matching sparse selectors so you need to make some configuration changes to try and work around this. You can set the maxBrowsePageSize in the configured destination policy, the default is 400. See this page.
Virtual destinations in ActiveMQ is probably the better choice, it almost always is when thinking about using durable subscribers. You could however add some message expiration to you messages and configure the policy to expire messages on inactive durable subscribers if you use a SNAPSHOT version of ActiveMQ 5.6.
It does seem like a bug, (or dashedly inconvenient at the least) but there is a work around using Virtual Destinations.
Quote:
Note that making a topic virtual does add a small CPU overhead when
sending messages to the topic but it is fairly small. From version
5.4, dispatch from virtual topics to subscription queues can be
selectorAware such that only messages that match one of the existing
subscribers are actually dispatched. Using this option prevents the
build up of unmatched messages when selectors are used by exclusive
consumers.