This may be the wrong place...but since it's actually regarding a GUI toolkit I figured it might be appropriate here.
Anyways theres a Program (For anyones reference it's actually an automated modding thing for a game called Morrowind). Anyways it has a nice clean GUI layout, it's for Windows. And basically im trying to find out just what toolkit was used.
I've tried contacting the author, and I haven't seen anything about what was used mentioned anywhere. Is there any chance I could find out someway which toolkit was used in making this Program?
Or is that technically private information?
If the program runs on MS-Windows, Dependency Walker allows you to find out which libraries the program requires. The required libraries might give you a hint about which GUI toolkit was used.
On other platforms, ldd is often available and gives you similar information.
This only works if the GUI toolkit is dynamically linked.
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I was wondering if it's possible somehow to use windows.pas on OS X with Lazarus?
I need to use special library in my project, and one of key-files uses windows.pas :( Any ideas?
Windows.pas only works on Windows. You will have to edit the library to put an IFDEF around it in the uses clause, and then provide alternatives for any functionality that is then broken. Or contact the library author and see if there is already a non-Windows version available.
You certainly cannot use Windows.pas under OSX. Because Windows.pas exposes the functionality of the Win32 library.
If you need to execute Win32 code on OSX pretty much your only option is Wine.
A more plausible solution is that you find an alternative to this "special" library to which you refer.
Windows.pas is mostly a wrapper around different DLLs contained in the Windows operating system. As it is unlikely that you will find those DLLs in OSX I guess you are out of luck.
You could check the library's source code and try to identify the constants, procedures and functions that are used in windows.pas. If it is not too much code you could try to modify the library so that it uses corresponding Carbon functions instead.
While the various answers are correct, and the vast bulk of unit windows is not portable, some functionality IS abstracted. Structures like interlockedincrement, Rect and ColorRef, and some message related functionality. Have a look at types and lcltype and the system unit interface of FPC.
A lot of Delphi code still uses Windows for that functionality, while e.g. unit types already exists since D6.
Some other things are abstracted, but not using the same (windows unit) calls. Better explain what exactly you need in a separate post.
As a developer, I am interested in the question of what technology/framework is best for building applications. The ultimate answer is to see what the best (in my opinion) applications are using. Yet, none of them reveal this in their About page. It's a travesty. Congress should pass a law requiring it. (No, seriously, it'd help the economy.)
A brief Google search didn't turn up a utility to do this. Does anyone have any tips?
Things I want to know: the platform (Native, .NET, Java, AIR), the GUI toolkit (WPF, Silverlight, Swing, JavaFX, various native ones), fundamental libraries (DI containers, persistence, etc.), etc., etc.
E.g., I am guessing Rosetta Stone is using Adobe AIR. I just started using Ebay's Turbo Lister today and am both impressed by its sophistication and baffled by its unusual style. What does it use?
Before continuing, I'd like to call out your "Congress should pass a law requiring it" as insane :)
Here are some tips on how you can find out such information on Windows:
Process Explorer and Process Hacker can tell you a ton about a running process.
Dependency Walker (or command line tools such as VC's depends.exe GCC's nm, etc.) can tell you about a executable's dependencies which are very revealing.
NTCore's Explorer Suite can show you a lot about a ton about a executable including it's resources such as it's manifest information.
Using the above and similar tools you can find out what technologies, libraries, etc. an application is using pretty quickly.
After a long evaluation period of mainstream toolkits Qt, WxWidget, GTK i came to the conclusion that it does not make sense to religiously equalize the different platform. Now more then ever before.
In the days before Java portability meant, that platform dependent code was located in known places and should be small but not none. No write once, run everywhere marketing.
Is there any GUI tookit - experimental or commerical (even outdated or dead projects) - that is going this way. It would need to give me native widgets of course. I would like to have a look at them before i start my own toolkit
If you think this is a stupid idea tell me why (cause everybody else is doing it differently there may be a reason i don't see)
As someone who zealously believes that GUIs should be drawn with native widgets, I must say I've been very impressed with wxWidgets, although you mention that at the beginning.
As far as I know, wxWidgets uses native widgets whenever possible, and indeed it does also include platform-specific features that are neither possible nor relevant on other platforms. A good example of this is how you can use the native Mac OS X menu, while on other systems it won't do squat. There are other and better examples.
I must mention wxPython in particular, in case you either don't want to or just don't have the time to write a C++ program. wxPython astonished me when I tried it out first, and I even managed to make a stand-alone .exe file from it that worked on a fresh install of Windows 2000 without any updates or particular runtime environments.
If wxWidgets doesn't suit your needs, I wonder what would. :) Hurray for wxWidgets!
AFAIK, wxWidgets uses the platform's native widgets whenever possible.
Have a look at SWT, it tries to use the widgets of the underlying platform as much as possible.
I've got a working proprietary application (windows exe) and would like to know which particular toolkit was used to make it. The reason is that I like the widgets it uses and seek to use same library in my project (to buy it if it's proprietary as well).
Just use Process Explorer to see what DLLs the application has loaded. That will be your widget set. Sort the results by folder to roughly group them by manufacturer. You may need to examine the properties of the DLLs for more detailed info as well.
If the library is statically linked you may have to do some deep looking around, maybe you'll get lucky and find a string saying the name of the library or a class/function in it. You can use OllyDbg for this to view strings loaded at runtime, or something like the linux command strings to look through statically, although that wont work if the program decodes itself at startup. If that doesn't work, you'd have to come up with a list of libraries that do what the one you are looking at does, and find some artifacts in the binary that are common between the two. Anyways, better to check the dlls first like Paul Sasik said.
You can use PEiD to identify the compiler, which can be a hint aswel. PEiD also has a nice process explorer.
For instance, Google Chrome uses C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\IEFRAME.DLL :-) Nice isn't it?
(Don't trust it 100%. For instance, my own compiler has the "Morphine 1.2 - 1.3 -> rootkit" description, which I find quite awkward: that's a packer/compiler trace obfuscator.)
I need to write an app that reads a config file with info on the menu bars it needs to create.
Normally, I'd just use java, but I need the application to have the least run-time dependencies possible, this includes not forcing the user to download anything, even JRE, let alone something like NET Framework.
So I need something that can compile to an EXE (windows only for now), and that will allow me to CODE the GUI, so I can dynamically create it from my config.
BTW: something like C++ is a bit too low level, all I need is to create menus, and display HTMLs in a panel.
How about wxPython together with py2exe?
There is a nice tutorial on how to do it here.
If Java's too high-level and C++ too low-level, there ins't much in-between. Maybe Delphi?
I wouldn't totally write off using Java and/or Python for a few reasons.
1) py2exe can compile your Python code to an exe.
2) GCJ can compile your Java code to an exe.
Delphi is best chose for you. Because Delphi compile source code into native x86.
Unless you have serious reasons to avoid interpreted languages, I would suggest you better look into ways of packaging or compiling interpreted scripts because doing this will likely reduce your learning and development time.
I would write a simple GUI in Tcl/Tk, and then package it as a Starpack.
ActiveState provides a distribution (ActiveTCL) and a decent editor (Komodo Edit), and it is fairly easy to get simple GUIs going with Tk. Check out TkDocs for some hand holding.
Once you're done, you can package your code, a Tcl runtime, a database, and a virtual filesystem, all into a single executable that you can easily distribute.
Earwicker is right. You can use HTA:
http://www.interclasse.com/scripts/htanotepad.php
But if you know C++, then creating this type of an application is actually very easy with Visual C++. Use MFC, and statically link everything. You can draw the menu in the resource editor, and attach events to the menu items. I wouldn't use HTML if I were you. Just use regular Windows controls. But if you're really set on using HTML, you can embed a Browser control in the formview.
Have you considered D ? It has a syntax that is like a mixture of Java, C++ and Python with the ability to make native windows apps. The tutorials on dprogramming.com are great to get up and going with the language. For quick GUIs you'd be interested in The D Forms Library and the Entice Designer.
Here are some short video tutorials to get up and running with Entice.
Alternatively, have you tried Qt & Qt Creator? It takes a lot of the hair pulling out of C++ Programming and it's also cross-platform.
You say:
all I need is to create menus, and
display HTMLs in a panel.
A lot like a Web browser, then. If it's going to run on Windows, then the user has IE. Why not use IE to do all the work for you?
You can make something a lot like an .exe with IE, called an .hta:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms536496(VS.85).aspx