POSIX shell semantic for exec and & (moving program to background) - shell

I can't figure what happen on:
exec CMD &
especially what value for pid is:
echo $!

With exec CMD &, the & takes effect first, so everything is run in background; then the command is evaluated, and exec'd, but that would have happened without the exec, so in fact that is the same as writing CMD & (but causes people to worry about why it was written thus, so it is bad style).
The value in $! should be the PID of the command that is executed in the background.

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When opening Unity 3D from command line, quitting the terminal quits Unity [duplicate]

Just switched from bash to zsh.
In bash, background tasks continue running when the shell exits. For example here, dolphin continues running after the exit:
$ dolphin .
^Z
[1]+ Stopped dolphin .
$ bg
[1]+ dolphin . &
$ exit
This is what I want as the default behavior.
In contrast, zsh's behavior is to warn about running jobs on exit, then close them if you exit again. For example here, dolphin is closed when the second exit-command actually exits the shell:
% dolphin .
^Z
zsh: suspended dolphin .
% bg
[1] + continued dolphin .
% exit
zsh: you have running jobs.
% exit
How do I make zsh's default behavior here like bash's?
Start the program with &!:
dolphin &!
The &! (or equivalently, &|) is a zsh-specific shortcut to both background and disown the process, such that exiting the shell will leave it running.
From the zsh documentation:
HUP
... In zsh, if you have a background job running when the shell exits, the shell will assume you want that to be killed; in this case it is sent a particular signal called SIGHUP... If you often start jobs that should go on even when the shell has exited, then you can set the option NO_HUP, and background jobs will be left alone.
So just set the NO_HUP option:
% setopt NO_HUP
I have found that using a combination of nohup, &, and disown works for me, as I don't want to permanently cause jobs to run when the shell has exited.
nohup <command> & disown
While just & has worked for me in bash, I found when using only nohup, &, or disown on running commands, like a script that calls a java run command, the process would still stop when the shell is exited.
nohup makes the command ignore NOHUP and SIGHUP signals from the shell
& makes the process run in the background in a subterminal
disown followed by an argument (the index of the job number in your jobs list) prevents the shell from sending a SIGHUP signal to child processes. Using disown without an argument causes it to default to the most recent job.
I found the nohup and disown information at this page, and the & information in this SO answer.
Update
When I originally wrote this, I was using it for data processing scripts/programs. For those kinds of use cases, something like ts (task-spooler), works nicely.
I typically use screen for keeping background jobs running.
1) Create a screen session:
screen -S myScreenName
2) Launch your scripts,services,daemons or whatever
3) Exit (detach) screen-session with
screen -d
or
shortcut ALT+A then d
After few hundreds of years - if you want to resume your session (reattach):
screen -r myScreenName
If you want to know if there's a screen-session, its name and its status (attached or detached):
screen -ls
This solution works on all terminal interpreters like bash, zsh etc.
See also man screen

How to prevent nohup from "clogging" the command line?

I want to write a bash script that runs two commands in the background. I am using nohup for this:
nohup cmd1 &
nohup cmd2 &
However, only the 1st command runs in the background.
When I run nohup cmd1 & manually in the command line. First, I type nohup cmd1 & then hit enter; this starts the process:
But, then I need to hit enter again to be able to type another command:
I think this is "clogging" up the command line, and is causing my bash script to get stuck at the first nohup ... & command.
Is there a way to prevent this?
Nothing is "clogged". The first command, running in the background, prints some output after your shell prints its next prompt. The shell is waiting for you to type a command, even though the cursor is no longer on the same line as the prompt. That extra Enter is an empty command, causing the shell to print another prompt. It's harmless but unnecessary.
Let me say something to nohup because I'm not sure if you are certain about what it is doing. In short, the nohup command is not necessary to run a process in background. The ampersand at the end of the line is doing it.
nohup prevents the background process from receiving SIGHUP (hup for hang up) if you close the terminal where the starting shell runs it. SIGHUP would effectively terminate the process.
If started with nohup the process will not receive that event and will continue running, owned by the init process (pid 1) if the terminal will being closed.
Furthermore the nohup command will redirect standard output of the controlled process to a file, meaning it will not appear on screen any more. By default this file is called nohup.out.

Bash trap exit kill last process

I have the following in my bash file: (I would like to kill a web server once the bash script is over under any circumstances)
python -m SimpleHTTPServer 12345 &
trap "kill $!" EXIT
I am wondering how safe/widespread is this? When will $! actually be evaluated (I am pretty sure that this happens at the place of declaration, but still need advice)?
What you wrote is safe. Because you're using double quotes, $! is evaluated immediately. If you used single quotes it would be evaluated at the time the script exits.

Running bash script does not return to terminal when using ampersand (&) to run a subprocess in the background

I have a script (lets call it parent.sh) that makes 2 calls to a second script (child.sh) that runs a java process. The child.sh scripts are run in the background by placing an & at the end of the line in parent.sh. However, when i run parent.sh, i need to press Ctrl+C to return to the terminal screen. What is the reason for this? Is it something to do with the fact that the child.sh processes are running under the parent.sh process. So the parent.sh doesn't die until the childs do?
parent.sh
#!/bin/bash
child.sh param1a param2a &
child.sh param1b param2b &
exit 0
child.sh
#!/bin/bash
java com.test.Main
echo "Main Process Stopped" | mail -s "WARNING-Main Process is down." user#email.com
As you can see, I don't want to run the java process in the background because i want to send a mail out when the process dies. Doing it as above works fine from a functional standpoint, but i would like to know how i can get it to return to the terminal after executing parent.sh.
What i ended up doing was to make to change parent.sh to the following
#!/bin/bash
child.sh param1a param2a > startup.log &
child.sh param1b param2b > startup2.log &
exit 0
I would not have come to this solution without your suggestions and root cause analysis of the issue. Thanks!
And apologies for my inaccurate comment. (There was no input, I answered from memory and I remembered incorrectly.)
The following link from the Linux Documentation Project suggests adding a wait after your mail command in child.sh:
http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/x9644.html
Summary of the above document
Within a script, running a command in the background with an ampersand (&)
may cause the script to hang until ENTER is hit. This seems to occur with
commands that write to stdout. It can be a major annoyance.
....
....
As Walter Brameld IV explains it:
As far as I can tell, such scripts don't actually hang. It just
seems that they do because the background command writes text to
the console after the prompt. The user gets the impression that
the prompt was never displayed. Here's the sequence of events:
Script launches background command.
Script exits.
Shell displays the prompt.
Background command continues running and writing text to the
console.
Background command finishes.
User doesn't see a prompt at the bottom of the output, thinks script
is hanging.
If you change child.sh to look like the following you shouldn't experience this annoyance:
#!/bin/bash
java com.test.Main
echo "Main Process Stopped" | mail -s "WARNING-Main Process is down." user#gmail.com
wait
Or as #SebastianStigler states in a comment to your question above:
Add a > /dev/null at the end of the line with mail. mail will otherwise try to start its interactive mode.
This will cause the mail command to write to /dev/null rather than stdout which should also stop this annoyance.
Hope this helps
The process was still linked to the controlling terminal because STDOUT needs somewhere to go. You solved that problem by redirecting to a file ( > startup.log ).
If you're not interested in the output, discard STDOUT completely ( >/dev/null ).
If you're not interested in errors, either, discard both ( &>/dev/null ).
If you want the processes to keep running even after you log out of your terminal, use nohup — that effectively disconnects them from what you are doing and leaves them to quietly run in the background until you reboot your machine (or otherwise kill them).
nohup child.sh param1a param2a &>/dev/null &

Difference between ( ) & and ( &)?

I'm wondering what's the difference between these two grammar in bash: ( &) and ( ) &.
The only difference that I noticed is, (tty &) will return "not a tty" while (tty) & will return the current tty name, but why?
To give an example, should I run (setsid startx &) or (setsid startx) &?
In the case of
(tty &)
a subshell is started which starts another tty process in the background without job control and terminal, hence there is a "not a tty" error. The tty process becomes detached with PPID 1
In the case of
(tty) &
a subshell is started and runs in the background. This background shell starts a tty process and after tty finishes and reports to the terminal, the subshell finishes in the background.
--
tty is a simple command. Whether or not a particular command (like startx) needs a ( ... &) construct to become detached / disowned from a parent process depends on the command itself. There are a number of ways for a process to in turn start a subprocess and detach that, so the command may not need it.

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