No need HTTPS if i am going to use JOSE(JWT&JWE)? - https

I am recentlly finding a solution of Web Security, As far as i known the HTTPS will bring more security web, but i found another Security solution of JOSE(JWT&JWE) so i want to known, i use it in the future, can i just use HTTP only but without HTTPS ?
Kris.
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Your question is legit to me and I am sorry to see that you received downvotes.
As far as i known the HTTPS will bring more security web, but i found another Security solution of JOSE(JWT&JWE)
I think there is a confusion between the both technologies.
JWE is just a format that represents content using JSON based data structures and that provides integrity protection and encryption whereas HTTPS is a secured layer for the HTTP communication protocol.
JWE is not a replacement to the HTTPS protocol.
The use of one technology, the other one or both of them only depends on your application context. HTTPS may not be absolutely necessary in some contexts and the secured communication provided by other means.
You mentioned that you want to find a solution for a security application. A secured connection should be always used in that context.

You absolutely need HTTPS even if you are using JWTs and JWEs. HTTPS allows your client to verify that they are talking to the server they are expecting to talk to. It also protects the content of the communication, including the JWT/JWE tokens that you are using. Without HTTPS, anybody who can listen to the communication between your client and your server can impersonate your clients.
JWTs in particular can carry information about your user. You may not need to forward it to the authorization server that granted the token (if you are using an asymmetric signing key) and still have enough information about the identity and permissions of your user to grant or deny them access to the resources that you are protecting.

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I have an https site that needs data from an API that is only available in http.
To get around the mixed content warning, I changed it so the JS requests a path on the server, which then makes the http request and returns the data.
Is this bad? If it is bad, why?
My understanding of what you're doing :
You are providing a HTTPS url on your server which is essentially acting as a proxy, making a backend connection between your server and the API provider over HTTP.
If my understanding of what you're doing is correct, then what you're doing is better than just serving everything over HTTP...
You are providing security between the client and your server. Most security threats that would take advantage of a plain HTTP connection are in the local environment of the client - such as on a shared local network. Dodgy wifi in a cafe. School lans. etc.
The connection between your server and the API provider is unencrypted but apparently they only provide that unencrypted anyway. This is really the best you can do unless your API provider starts providing an HTTPS interface.
It's more secure than doing nothing and should eliminate the browser errors.
If there is a real need for security (PCI compliance, HIPAA etc) however, you should stop using that API. However it seems unlikely considering the circumstantial evidence in your question.

Secure Connection, NSURLSession to Django Rest API

More of a question of understanding rather than looking for a technical solution. I'm on a team working to build an iOS application that needs database support. We're using Swift for the application code. A Django REST API wraps a MySQL database on the backend. The two are communicating over HTTP using Swift's NSURLSession class.
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This question is more about whether or not SSL is secure, and less about if any of the tools that are being used make it less secure.
Luckily the Information Security Stack Exchange has your answer with an in-depth explanation as to how TLS does help secure your application.
When it comes to securing your Django site though, django-sslify is a good start, but it's not the magic cure to security issues. If you can, it's recommended to not serve insecure responses, which works well for API hosts (api.github.com is one example), but not if your API is hosted on the same domain as your front-end application. There are other Django apps available that are recommended, such as djang-secure (parts of which were integrated into Django 1.8).
You should also follow the Django security recommendations, and revisit them with new major releases. There are other resources you can look at, like "Is Django's built-in security enough" and many other questions on the Information Security Stack Exchange.

Is HTTPS Stateful or Stateless?

I want a bit of clarity on whether HTTPS is stateful or stateless? This is with regards to a RESTful API I built. We were initially using HTTP. Since HTTP essentially works over TCP/IP which is stateless hence HTTP is stateless, but when I switched to HTTPS my API became stateful. I wanted to know whether my conclusion that HTTPS is stateful. is correct or not?
I created my API using a middleware tool called webMethods.
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TLS/SSL is stateful. The web server and the client (browser) cache the session including the cryptographic keys to improve performance and do not perform key exchange for every request.
HTTP 1 is not stateful. HTTP/2 however defines many stateful components, but the "application layer" still remains stateless.
TL;DR: The transport pipe (TLS) is stateful, original HTTP is not.
Additional note: Cookies and other stateful mechanisms are later additions defined in separate RFC's. They are not part of the original HTTP/1.0 specification, although other stateful mechanisms like caching and HTTP auth are defined HTTP 1.1 RFC and RFC 2617. HTTP 1 is said to be stateless although in practice we use standardized stateful mechanisms. HTTP/2 defines stateful components in its standard and is therefore stateful. A particular HTTP/2 application can use a subset of HTTP/2 features to maintain statelessness.
Theory aside, in practice you use HTTP statefully in your everyday life.
The S in HTTPS is concerned with the transport, not the protocol. The semantics of the HTTP protocol remain the same for HTTPS. As the article about HTTPS on Wikipedia states,
Strictly speaking, HTTPS is not a separate protocol, but refers to use of ordinary HTTP over an encrypted SSL/TLS connection.
And the HTTP protocol is stateless by design, not because it is used most frequently over TCP/IP (nothing stops you to use HTTP over UDP for example).
HTTPS is HTTP over a secure connection.
HTTP is a higher level than a connection.
When connecting to a web server, your connection is (maybe always?) of type TCP/IP. So, in case you are visiting a website via HTTPS, your TCP/IP connection is encrypted.
The data the server and/or client send has not been encrypted by the server and/or client. It is just sent, as it is usually via HTTP, but this time using a connection via TCP/IP that is secured via encryption.
If data were vehicles, and the connexion the highway, then:
- using HTTP would be like the vehicles going on the highway, and everyone can see them;
- using HTTPS would be like the same, but the vehicles go through a tunnel or anything that prevents people not on the highway from seeing them. You can determine there is trafic, but you cannot identify the vehicles, except on both ends of the tunnel.
I believe this is an image close to what happens behind the scene. But I'm no expert. I just hope it helps.
HTTP and HTTPS both are stateless protocols. The S in HTTPS stands for Secure and it refers to use of ordinary HTTP over an encrypted SSL/TLS connection.
Use of JWT tokens or the traditional way of establishing sessions using cookies help us to overcome the problem of HTTP being a stateless protocol, as it enables the server to authenticate the identity of the client, so that you don't need to login every time you click a link to navigate on the web-page.
So For example, when you log in to the website of your bank, it only asks you to enter your login details once. Once you are signed in, you don't need to re-enter them when you navigate to the account settings page, this is because the bank site is able to authenticate your identity using JWT tokens.
JWT tokens are only used on HTTPS and not in HTTP, because the connection is encrypted in HTTPS, so it cannot be intercepted by anyone.
Thus, HTTP and HTTPS both are stateless protocols, but JWT Tokens provides a workaround for it.
I believe HTTPS is a stateful protocol as it contains Session identifier field.This generated by server initially to identify a session with the chosen client.

If a website doesn't use HTTPS to do user log in, are the users passwords fairly unprotected?

This question tries to look into whether doing HTTPS log in is very important for any website.
Is it true that for many websites, if the login is done through HTTP but not HTTPS, then anybody can pretty much see the userID and password easily along the internet highway (or by looking between a router and the internet connection in an Internet Cafe)?
If so... do popular frameworks actually use HTTPS by default (or at least as an option), such as Rails 2.3.5 or Django, CakePHP, or .Net?
Yes, any machine on the pathway (that the packets pass through) can just examine the contents of the those packets. All it takes is a capturing proxy or a promiscuous mode network card with something like WireShark. Assuming that the passwords aren't encrypted in some other way (at a higher level), they will be visible.
I can't answer the second part of your question since I have no knowledge of those particular products but I would say that the inability to use secure sockets would pretty much make them useless.
Pax is right about passwords that aren't otherwise encrypted being visible.
Still, most sites don't use SSL still, and it does put the users at a certain degree of risk when accessing sites from public wifi.
HTTPS isn't a framework level option, it would be something you'd do when you set up the webserver. If you were to use an apache configuration for instance, you would open it up to a properly configured https, close http and install a certification. The framework wouldn't have a direct influence on that portion of the release.
If the user credentials are submitted via an HTML webform without HTTPS, then it is unsecure, the data is submitted in plain text. However, if the website uses HTTP authentication instead, then the server can send back a 401 reply (or 407 for proxies) to any request that does not provide valid credentials. 401/407 is the server's way to ask for credentials, and the reply provides a list of authentication schemes (Digest, NTLM, Negotiate, etc) that the server supports, which are usually more secure by themselves. The client/browser sends the same request again with the necessariy credentials in one of the schemes, then the server either sends the requested data, or sends another 401/407 reply if the credentials are rejected.

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