Getting a queue without providing its all properties - ruby

I am trying to write a consumer for an existing queue.
RabbbitMQ is running in a separate instance and queue named "org-queue" is already created and binded to an exchange. org-queue is a durable queue and it has some additional properties as well.
Now I need to receive messages from this queue.
I have use the below code to get instance of the queue
conn = Bunny.new
conn.start
ch = conn.create_channel
q = ch.queue("org-queue")
It throws me an error stating different durable property. It seems by default the Bunny uses durable = false. So I've added durable true as parameter. Now it states the difference between other parameters. Do I need to specify all the parameters, to connect to it? As rabbitMQ is maintained by different environment, it is hard for me to get all the properties.
Is there a way to get list of queues and listening to the required queue in client instead of connecting to a queue by all parameters.

Have you tried the :passive=true parameter on queue()? A real example is the rabbitmq plugin of logstash. :passive means to only check queue existence rather than to declare it when consuming messages from it.

Based on the documentation here http://reference.rubybunny.info/Bunny/Queue.html and
http://reference.rubybunny.info/Bunny/Channel.html
Using the ch.queues() method you could get a hash of all the queues on that channel. Then once you find the instance of the queue you are wanting to connect to you could use the q.options() method to find out what options are on that rabbitmq queue.
Seems like a round about way to do it but might work. I haven't tested this as I don't have a rabbitmq server up at the moment.

Maybe there is way to get it with rabbitmqctl or the admin tool (I have forgotten the name), so the info about queue. Even if so, I would not bother.
There are two possible solutions that come to my mind.
First solution:
In general if you want to declare an already existing queue, it has to be with ALL correct parameters. So what I'm doing is having a helper function for declaring a specific queue (I'm using c++ client, so the API may be different but I'm sure concept is the same). For example, if I have 10 subscribers that are consuming queue1, and each of them needs to declare the queue in the same way, I will simply write a util that declares this queue and that's that.
Before the second solution a little something: Maybe here is the case in which we come to a misconception that happens too often :)
You don't really need a specific queue to get the messages from that queue. What you need is a queue and the correct binding. When sending a message, you are not really sending to the queue, but to the exchange, sometimes with routing key, sometimes without one - let's say with. On the receiving end you need a queue to consume a message, so naturally you declare one, and bind it to an exchange with a routing key. You don't need even need the name of the queue explicitly, server will provide a generic one for you, so that you can use it when binding.
Second solution:
relies on the fact that
It is perfectly legal to bind multiple queues with the same binding
key
(found here https://www.rabbitmq.com/tutorials/tutorial-four-java.html)
So each of your subscribers can delcare a queue in whatever way they want, as long as they do the binding correctly. Of course these would be different queues with different names.
I would not recommend this. This implies that every message goes to two queues for example and most likely a message (I am assuming the use case here needs to be processed only once by one subscriber).

Related

ActiveMQ - Competing Consumers with Selector - messages starve in the queue

ActiveMQ 5.15.13
Context: I have a single queue with multiple Consumers. I want to stop some consumers from processing certain messages. This has to be dynamic, I don't want to create separate queues for this. This works without any problems. e.g. Consumer1 ignores Stocks -> Consumer1 can process all invoices and Consumer2 can process all Stocks
But if there is a large number of messages already in the Queue (of one type, e.g. stocks) and I send a message of another type (e.g. invoices), Consumer1 won't process the message of type invoices. It will instead be idle until Consumer2 has processed all Stocks messages. It does not happen every time, but quite often.
Is there any option to change the order of the new messages coming into the queue, such that an idle consumer with matching selector picks up the new message?
Things I've already tried:
using a PendingMessageLimitStrategy -> it seems like it does not work for queues
increasing the maxPageSize and maxBrowsePageSize in the hope that once all Messages are in RAM, the Consumers will search for their messages.
Exclusive Consumers aren't an option since I want to be able to use more than one Consumer per message type.
Im pretty sure that there is some configuration which allows this type of usage. I'm aware that there are better solutions for this issue, but sadly I can't use them easily due to other constraints.
Thanks a lot in advance!
EDIT: I noticed that when I'm refreshing on the localhost queue browser, the stuck messages get executed immediately. It seems like this action performs some sort of queue refresh where the messages get filtered based on their selector again. So I just need this action whenever a new message enters the queue...
This is a 'window' problem where the next set of 'stocks' data needs to be processed before the 'invoicing' data can be processed.
The gotcha with window problems like this is that you need to account for the fact that some messages may never come through, or a consumer may never come back online either. Also, eventually you will be asked 'how many invoices or stocks are left to be processed'-- aka observability.
ActiveMQ has you covered-- check out wild-card destinations and consumers.
Produce 'stocks' to:
queue://data.stocks.input
Produce 'invoices' to:
queue://data.invoices.input
You then setup consumes to connect:
queue://data.*.input
note: the wildard '*'.
ActiveMQ will match queues based on the wildcard pattern, and then process data accordingly. As a bonus, you can still use a selector.

bind destinations dynamically for producers and consumers (Spring)

I'm trying to send and receive messages to channels/topics whose destination names are in a database, so they can be added/modified/deleted at runtime, but I'm surprised I have found little on the web. I'm using Spring Cloud Streams to allow to change the underlying broker.
To send messages to dynamically bound destinations I'm going with BinderAwareChannelResolver.resolveDestination(target).send(message), but I haven't found something that works like it to receive messages.
My questions are:
1. Is there something similar?
2. how can the message be processed periodically as #StreamListener does?
3. And not as important, but can you create a subscriber automatically in case there is none?
Thanks for any help!
This is a bit out of scope of the original design of the framework. But I would further question your architecture. . . If you truly desire to subscribe to unlimited amount of destinations I wonder why? What is the underlying business requirement?
Keep in mind that even if we were to do it somehow that would require creation of a message listener container dynamically for each new destination which would raise more questions, such as, how long would such container have to live since eventually you would run out of resources.
If, however, you simply asking about possibility of mapping multiple destinations to a single channel so all messages go to the same message handler (e.g., StreamListener), then you can simply use input destination property and define multiple destination delimited by comas.

How to create unique messages to rabbitmq queue - spring-amp

I am putting a message containing string data to rabbitmq queue.
Message publishing is called as a part of a service and the service can be called with same data (data goes to the queue) multiple times, thus chances for having duplicated data in the queue is very likely.
We have issues with this as the consumer code is inserting this data to table where this data is primary key. Consumer will be called from 4 different nodes simultaneously thus chances for having consumers consuming same data (from different messages) can happen.
I want to know if rabbitMQ publishing has any way to avoid message duplication.
Read "define a property "x-unique-message-code" to compare them is an easy and simple way" , but don't know how to do it.
I am using spring-amqp
Any help is highly appreciated.
Thank you
There is a good article from RabbitMQ about reliability: https://www.rabbitmq.com/reliability.html
There is a note like:
In the event of network failure (or a node crashing), messages can be duplicated, and consumers must be prepared to handle them. If possible, the simplest way to handle this is to ensure that your consumers handle messages in an idempotent way rather than explicitly deal with deduplication.
For this purpose the message to produce can be supplied with a messageId property.

how to use same rabbitmq queue in different java microservice [duplicate]

I have implemented the example from the RabbitMQ website:
RabbitMQ Example
I have expanded it to have an application with a button to send a message.
Now I started two consumer on two different computers.
When I send the message the first message is sent to computer1, then the second message is sent to computer2, the thrid to computer1 and so on.
Why is this, and how can I change the behavior to send each message to each consumer?
Why is this
As noted by Yazan, messages are consumed from a single queue in a round-robin manner. The behavior your are seeing is by design, making it easy to scale up the number of consumers for a given queue.
how can I change the behavior to send each message to each consumer?
To have each consumer receive the same message, you need to create a queue for each consumer and deliver the same message to each queue.
The easiest way to do this is to use a fanout exchange. This will send every message to every queue that is bound to the exchange, completely ignoring the routing key.
If you need more control over the routing, you can use a topic or direct exchange and manage the routing keys.
Whatever type of exchange you choose, though, you will need to have a queue per consumer and have each message routed to each queue.
you can't it's controlled by the server check Round-robin dispatching section
It decides which consumer turn is. i'm not sure if there is a set of algorithms you can pick from, but at the end server will control this (i think round robin algorithm is default)
unless you want to use routing keys and exchanges
I would see this more as a design question. Ideally, producers should create the exchanges and the consumers create the queues and each consumer can create its own queue and hook it up to an exchange. This makes sure every consumer gets its message with its private queue.
What youre doing is essentially 'worker queues' model which is used to distribute tasks among worker nodes. Since each task needs to be performed only once, the message is sent to only one node. If you want to send a message to all the nodes, you need a different model called 'pub-sub' where each message is broadcasted to all the subscribers. The following link shows a simple pub-sub tutorial
https://www.rabbitmq.com/tutorials/tutorial-three-python.html

Filter / drop duplicate messages from ActiveMQ queue based on custom properties

Problem
When my web application updates an item in the database, it sends a message containing the item ID via Camel onto an ActiveMQ queue, the consumer of which will get an external service (Solr) updated. The external service reads from the database independently.
What I want is that if the web application sends another message with the same item ID while the old one is still on queue, that the new message be dropped to avoid running the Solr update twice.
After the update request has been processed and the message with that item ID is off the queue, new request with the same ID should again be accepted.
Is there a way to make this work out of the box? I'm really tempted to drop ActiveMQ and simply implement the update request queue as a database table with a unique constraint, ordered by timestamp or a running insert id.
What I tried so far
I've read this and this page on Stackoverflow. These are the solutions mentioned there:
Idempotent consumers in Camel: Here I can specify an expression that defines what constitutes a duplicate, but that would also prevent all future attempts to send the same message, i.e. update the same item. I only want new update requests to be dropped while they are still on queue.
"ActiveMQ already does duplicate checks, look at auditDepth!": Well, this looks like a good start and definitely closest to what I want, but this determines equality based on the Message ID which I cannot set. So either I find a way to make ActiveMQ generate the Message ID for this queue in a certain way or I find a way to make the audit stuff look at my item ID field instead of the Message ID. (One comment in my second link even suggests using "a well defined property you set on the header", but fails to explain how.)
Write a custom plugin that redirects incoming messages to the deadletter queue if they match one that's already on the queue. This seems to be the most complete solution offered so far, but it feels so overkill for what I perceive as a fairly mundane and every-day task.
PS: I found another SO page that asks the same thing without an answer.
What you want is not message broker functionality, repeat after me, "A message broker is not a database, A message broker is not a database", repeat as necessary.
The broker's job is get messages reliably from point A to point B. The client offers some filtering capabilities via message selectors but this is minimal and mainly useful in keeping only specific messages that a single client is interested in from flowing there and not others which some other client might be in charge of processing.
Your use case calls for a more stateful database centric solution as you've described. Creating a broker plugin to walk the Queue to check for a message is reinventing the wheel and prone to error if the Queue depth is large as ActiveMQ might not even page in all the messages for you based on memory constraints.

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