I'm combining the vertex data that has the same format in a single VBO, assigning vertex attributes based on a material that these object use and rendering them with a single glDrawArrays() call.
It is all working out great until I have to disable some objects (say object1) from being rendered at runtime. Is this even possible, assuming I've already set up all the vertex attributes and stuff? Would it be better not to use batching at all, and have vbo/vao per object (then, if an object's disabled, just don't call glDraw*() on it) ?
Batching requires putting all of your data in one buffer, but batching is not limited to that. Batching is about reducing the number of draw calls. Putting your data in one buffer is necessary for that, but not sufficient.
Putting all of your vertex data in one buffer alone has performance advantages, relative to having to switch buffers and vertex formats. You don't need to go all the way to batching everything into a single draw call to improve performance over using a buffer for each individual object.
In OpenGL, as discussed in this video, the primary cost of multiple draw calls isn't the draw call itself. It's the state changes you usually do between draw calls.
You've put your vertex data in the same buffer, and you must have managed to eliminate stage changes between objects if you could render everything with one draw call. At that point, you've already gained most of the performance you're going to. Accept that and move on to other lower-hanging fruit.
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I have an existing OpenGL ES 3.1 application that renders a scene to an FBO with color and depth/stencil attachment. It uses the usual methods for drawing (glBindBuffer, glDrawArrays, glBlend*, glStencil* etc. ). My task is now to create a depth-only pass that fills the depth attachment with the same values as the main pass.
My question is: What is the minimum number of steps necessary to achieve this and avoid the GPU doing superfluous work (unnecessary shader invocations etc.)? Is deactivating the color attachment enough or do I also have to set null shaders, disable blending etc. ?
I assume you need this before the main pass runs, otherwise you would just keep the main pass depth.
Preflight
Create specialized buffers which contain only the mesh data needed to compute position (which are deinterleaved from all non-position data).
Create specialized vertex shaders (which compute only the output position).
Link programs with the simplest valid fragment shader.
Rendering
Render the depth-only pass using the specialized buffers and shaders, masking out all color writes.
Render the main pass with the full buffers and shaders.
Options
At step (2) above it might be beneficial to load the depth-only pass depth results as the starting depth for the main pass. This will give you better early-zs test accuracy, at the expense of the readback of the depth value. Most mobile GPUs have hidden surface removal, so this isn't always going to be a net gain - it depends on your content, target GPU, and how good your front-to-back draw order is.
You probably want to use the specialized buffers (position data interleaved in one buffer region, non-position interleaved in a second) for the main draw, as many GPUs will optimize out the non-position calculations if the primitive is culled.
The specialized buffers and optimized shaders can also be used for shadow mapping, and other such depth-only techniques.
I'm writing an OpenGL program that visualizes caves, so when I visualize the surface terrain I'd like to make it transparent, so you can see the caves below. I'm assuming I can normalize the data from a Digital Elevation Model into a grid aligned to the X/Z axes with regular spacing, and render each grid cell as two triangles. With an aligned grid I could avoid the cost of sorting when applying the painter's algorithm (to ensure proper transparency effects); instead I could just render the cells row by row, starting with the farthest row and the farthest cell of each row.
That's all well and good, but my question for OpenGL experts is, how could I draw the terrain most efficiently (and in a way that could scale to high resolution terrains) using OpenGL? There must be a better way than calling glDrawElements() once for every grid cell. Here are some ways I'm thinking about doing it (they involve features I haven't tried yet, that's why I'm asking the experts):
glMultiDrawElements Idea
Put all the terrain coordinates in a vertex buffer
Put all the coordinate indices in an element buffer
To draw, write the starting indices of each cell into an array in the desired order and call glMultiDrawElements with that array.
This seems pretty good, but I was wondering if there was any way I could avoid transferring an array of indices to the graphics card every frame, so I came up with the following idea:
Uniform Buffer Idea
This seems like a backward way of using OpenGL, but just putting it out there...
Put the terrain coordinates in a 2D array in a uniform buffer
Put coordinate index offsets 0..5 in a vertex buffer (they would have to be floats, I know)
call glDrawArraysInstanced - each instance will be one grid cell
the vertex shader examines the position of the camera relative to the terrain and determines how to order the cells, mapping gl_instanceId to the index of the first coordinate of the cell in the Uniform Buffer, and setting gl_Position to the coordinate at this index + the index offset attribute
I figure there might be shiny new OpenGL 4.0 features I'm not aware of that would be more elegant than either of these approaches. I'd appreciate any tips!
The glMultiDrawElements() approach sounds very reasonable. I would implement that first, and use it as a baseline you can compare to if you try more complex approaches.
If you have a chance to make it faster will depend on whether the processing of draw calls is an important bottleneck in your rendering. Unless the triangles you render are very small, and/or your fragment shader very simple, there's a good chance that you will be limited by fragment processing anyway. If you have profiling tools that allow you to collect data and identify bottlenecks, you can be much more targeted in your optimization efforts. Of course there is always the low-tech approach: If making the window smaller improves your performance, chances are that you're mostly fragment limited.
Back to your question: Since you asked about shiny new GL4 features, another method you could check out is indirect rendering, using glDrawElementsIndirect(). Beyond being more flexible, the main difference to glMultiDrawElements() is that the parameters used for each draw, like the start index in your case, can be sourced from a buffer. This might prevent one copy if you map this buffer, and write the start indices directly to the buffer. You could even combine it with persistent buffer mapping (look up GL_MAP_PERSISTENT_BIT) so that you don't have to map and unmap the buffer each time.
Your uniform buffer idea sounds pretty interesting. I'm slightly skeptical that it will perform better, but that's just a feeling, and not based on any data or direct experience. So I think you absolutely should try it, and report back on how well it works!
Stretching the scope of your question some more, you could also look into approaches for order-independent transparency rendering if you haven't considered and rejected them already. For example alpha-to-coverage is very easy to implement, and almost free if you would be using MSAA anyway. It doesn't produce very high quality transparency effects based on my limited attempts, but it could be very attractive if it does the job for your use case. Another technique for order-independent transparency is depth peeling.
If some self promotion is acceptable, I wrote an overview of some transparency rendering methods in an earlier answer here: OpenGL ES2 Alpha test problems.
I'm new to OpenGL ES and am using a VBO to speed up the rendering of a large number of objects. Currently I query a quadtree to determine which objects should appear in the viewport and use that data to update my VBO, like so:
glBufferData(
GL_ARRAY_BUFFER,
numObjects*sizeof(ObjectStruct),
objects,
GL_STREAM_DRAW
);
But is this the most efficient way of handling things? Should I instead avoid querying the quadtree and simply generate a static VBO containing information on all of my objects. If I do this, will GL be intelligent enough to cull objects which are positioned outside of the viewport?
GL won't know what's outside of the view frustum until vertex transformations have been executed. Objects outside of the view frustum will be culled to avoid redundant operations later in the pipeline. This does however mean that the driver and GPU have redundantly processed draws that will have no affect on the final image.
I'd recommend avoiding regular VBO updates, as each will either cause the graphics driver to stall or cause an additional memory allocations under the hood (enabling the GPU to continue rendering previous frames without interruption). I've written a blog post on the subject which may help: http://blog.imgtec.com/powervr/how-to-improve-your-renderer-on-powervr-based-platforms
The best approach depends on your use case. Ideally, you would batch a number of objects within a quadtree/octree node into a single draw. Doing so would enable your engine to reduce the amount of rendering work submitted without incurring the cost of VBO modifications
I'm making a WebGL game and eventually came up with a pretty convenient concept of object templates, when the game objects of the same kind (say, characters of the same race) are using the same template (which means: buffers, attributes and shader program), and are instanced from that template by specifying a set of uniforms (which are, in fact, the most common difference between the same-kind objects: model matrix, textures, bones positions, etc). For making independent objects with their own deep-copy of buffers, I just deep-copy and re-initialize the original template and start instantiating new objects from it.
But after that I started having doubts. Say, if I start using morphing on objects, by explicit editing of the vertices, this approach will require me to make a separate template for every object of such kind (otherwise, they would start morphing in exactly the same phase). Which is probably fine for this very case, 'cause I'll most likely need to recalculate normals and even texture coordinates, which means – most of the buffers.
But what if I'm missing some very common case of using attributes, say, blood decals, which will require me to update only a small piece of the buffer? In that case, it would be much more reasonable to have two buffers for each object: a common one that is shared by them all and the one for blood decals, which is unique for every single of them. And, as blood is usually spilled on everything, this sounds pretty reasonable, so that we would save a lot of space by storing vertices, normals and such without their unnecessary duplication.
I haven't tried implementing decals yet, so honestly not even sure if implementing them using vertex painting (textured or not) is the right choice. But I'm also pretty sure there are some commonly used attributes aside from vertices, normals and texture coordinates.
Here are some that I managed to come up with myself:
decals (probably better to be modelled as separate objects?)
bullet holes and such (same as decals maybe?)
Any thoughts?
UPD: as all this might sound confusing, I want to clarify: I do understand that using as few buffers as possible is a good thing, this is exactly why I'm trying to use this templates concept. My question is: what are the possible cases when using a single buffer and a single element buffer (with both of them shared between similar objects) for a template is going to stab me in the back?
Keeping a giant chunk of data that won't change on the card is incredibly useful for saving bandwidth. Additionally, you probably won't be directly changing the vertices positions once they are on the card. Instead you will probably morph them with passed in uniforms in the Vertex shader through Skeletal animation. Read about it here: Skeletal Animation
Do keep in mind though, that in Key frame animation with meshes, you would keep a bunch of buffers on the card each in a different key frame pose of the animation. However, you would then load whatever two key frames you want to interpolate over in as attributes and then blend between them (You can have more than two). Keyframe Animation
Additionally, with the introduction of Transformation Feedback, (No you don't get to use it in WebGL, it became core in OpenGL 3.0, WebGL is based on OpenGL ES 2.0, which is based on OpenGL 2.0) you can start keeping calculated data GPU side. In other words, you can do a giant particle system simulation in the vertex or geometry shader and then store the calculated data into another buffer, then use that buffer in the next frame without having to have a round trip from the GPU to CPU Read about them here: Transform Feedback and here: Transform Feedback how to
In general, you don't want to touch buffers once they are on the card, especially every frame. Instead load several and use pointers to that data in shaders as attributes.
This is for an OpenGL ES 2.0 game on Android, though I suspect the right answer is generic to any opengl situation.
TL;DR - is it better to send N data to the gpu once and then make K draw calls with it; or send K*N data to the gpu once, and make 1 draw call?
More Details I'm wondering about best practices for my situation. I have a dynamic mesh whose vertices I recompute every frame - think of it as a water surface - and I need to project these vertices onto K different quads in my game. (In each case the projection is slightly different; sparing details, you could imagine them as K different mirrors surrounding the mesh.) K is in the order of 10-25; I'm still figuring it out.
I can think of two broad options:
Bind the mesh as is, and call draw K different times, either
changing a uniform for shaders or messing with the fixed function
state to render to the correct quad in place (on the screen) or to different
segments of a texture (which I can later use when rendering the quads to achieve
the same effect).
Duplicate all the vertices in the mesh K times, essentially making a
single vertex stream with K meshes in it, and add an attribute (or
few) indicating which quad each mesh clone is supposed to project
onto (and how to get there), and use vertex shaders to project. I
would make one call to draw, but send K times as much data.
The Question: of those two options, which is generally better performance wise?
(Additionally: is there a better way to do this?
I had considered a third option, where I rendered the mesh details to a texture, and created my K-clone geometry as a sort of dummy stream, which I could bind once and for all, that looked up in a vertex shader into the texture for each vertex to find out what vertex it really represented; but I've been told that texture support in vertex shaders is poor or prohibited in OpenGL ES 2.0 and would prefer to avoid that route.)
There is no perfect answer to this question, though I would suggest you think about the nature of real-time computer graphics and the OpenGL pipeline. Although "the GL" is required to produce results that are consistent with in-order execution, the reality is that GPUs are highly parallel beasts. They employ lots of tricks that work best if you actually have many unrelated tasks going on at the same time (some even split the whole pipeline up into discrete tiles). GDDR memory, for instance is really high latency, so for efficiency GPUs need to be able to schedule other jobs to keep the stream processors (shader units) busy while memory is fetched for a job that is just starting.
If you are recomputing parts of your mesh each frame, then you will almost certainly want to favor more draw calls over massive CPU->GPU data transfers every frame. Saturating the bus with unnecessary data transfers plagues even PCI Express hardware (it is far slower than the overhead that several additional draw calls would ever add), it can only get worse on embedded OpenGL ES systems. Having said that, there is no reason you could not simply do glBufferSubData (...) to stream in only the affected portions of your mesh and continue to draw the entire mesh in a single draw call.
You might get better cache coherency if you split (or partition the data within) the buffer and/or draw calls up, depending on your actual use case scenario. The only way to decisively tell which is going to work better in your case is to profile your software on your target hardware. But all of this fail to look at the bigger picture, which is: "Why am I doing this on the CPU?!"
It sounds like what you really want is simply vertex instancing. If you can re-work your algorithm to work completely in vertex shaders by passing instance IDs you should see a massive improvement over all of the solutions I have seen you propose so far (true instancing is actually somewhere between what you described in solutions 1 and 2) :)
The actual concept of instancing is very simple and will give you benefits whether your particular version of the OpenGL API supports it at the API level or not (you can always implement it manually with vertex attributes and extra vertex buffer data). The thing is, you would not have to duplicate your data at all if you implement instancing correctly. The extra data necessary to identify each individual vertex is static, and you can always change a shader uniform and make an additional draw call (this is probably what you will have to do with OpenGL ES 2.0, since it does not offer glDrawElementsInstanced) without touching any vertex data.
You certainly will not have to duplicate your vertices K*N times, your buffer space complexity would be more like O (K + K*M), where M is the number of new components you had to add to uniquely identify each vertex so that you could calculate everything on the GPU. For "instance," you might need to number each of the vertices in your quad 1-4 and process the vertex differently in your shader depending on which vertex you're processing. In this case, the M coefficient is 1 and it does not change no matter how many instances of your quad you need to dynamically calculate each frame; N would determine the number of draw calls in OpenGL ES 2.0, not the size of your data. None of this additional storage space would be necessary in OpenGL ES 2.0 if it supported gl_VertexID :(
Instancing is the best way to make effective use of the highly-parallel GPU and avoid CPU/GPU synchronization and slow bus transfers. Even though OpenGL ES 2.0 does not support instancing in the API sense, multiple draw calls using the same vertex buffer where the only thing you change between calls are a couple of shader uniforms is often preferable to computing your vertices on the CPU and uploading new vertex data every frame or having your vertex buffer's size depend directly on the number of instances you intend to draw (yuck). You'll have to try it out and see what your hardware likes.
Instancing would be what you are looking for but unfortunately it is not available with OpenGL ES 2.0. I would be in favor of sending all the vertices to the GPU and make one draw call if all your assets can fit into the GPU. I have an experience of reducing draw calls from 100+ to 1 and the performance went from 15 fps to 60 fps.