i have a MSI installation package that is installed as SYSTEM User and adds an active setup entry to the registry. This setup makes sure when a new user(new = that has not executed this setup until now) is logging on msiexec adds all missing registry entries.
In the MSIEXEC i need to do a net use to mount the users home directory. This cannot be done as system user and needs to be done in the user context.
However i seem to be completely unable to detect that the setup is currently running on the user context. Thats why i thought it would be nice to give additional parameters to the StubPath in the active setup entry. I tried NETUSE=1. This however did nothing. The setup just ignored this parameter and uses the parameter given during installation. So NETUSE stays 0.
Any ideas what kind of condition i could use for my custom net-use action?
Why is an MSI mounting a users home directory? I would write a small utility to do all this work and just have the MSI put it in the Run registry key. Install once per machine as System and then when the user logs in the utility gets called and does whatever per-user work you need to have done.
If the installer legitimately needs to populate per user registry data then that is fine to continue the active setup pattern.
You can try to use your own custom action configured to run only when the LogonUser property is different tan SYSTEM.
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All,
I have no idea how Windows service works, just curious when we register a windows service(such as auto run a server after reboot), if it requires a user profile to load info(such as pulling data from somewhere else), what user profile does it load?
Thanks,
You can select what user run each service registered and the system comes with users assigned per service. The most used by the system is SYSTEM.
To check this you have to:
Go to services.
Right click on the desired service and properties.
Go to the Log on tab and check.
If the Local System account is selected the username is SYSTEM which has special permissions on almost all folder and Windows sections including users' profiles data.
By the other hand if you would like to do something special with an specific account you can tell the system the service will start with the account specified. Just make sure to update the password information every time the user change it.
Regards,
Luis
We have a legacy VB6 application that automatically emails reports. It runs from a scheduled task on a server. Occasionally a user will run the exe - it's in a folder that we can't lock them out of, and it has to remain in that folder for reasons too complicated to go into here. Is there a way to prevent users from running the exe while still letting it run from the scheduled task? I can modify the source code for the exe, so that's an option if someone can help me figure out how.
I'm going to call your existing app AppChild and a new VB6 (or other program language) program AppParent.
Modify AppChild to test for a command line parameter at either Sub Main() or at the first form loaded in the Form_Load() event. If the command line parameter isn't there, AppChild terminates.
AppParent would be in a location not accessible to the other users. The Scheduled task runs AppParent which runs AppChild and passes the required command line parameter. This could be secured somewhat by passing a calculated hash and decoding it in AppChild if needed.
Or, if the users don't have access to the Scheduled Tasks, you could just run AppChild , passing the required parameter from the Scheduled Task. If the users do have access to the Scheduled Task this won't work because they could then see the passed parameter and create a shortcut which passes the required parameter.
You didn't state which OS the server is running but you may have problems using network resources if you try to run the Scheduled Task without a logged in user. Task Manager got a major update to handle security issues to prevent hackers from running tasks without a logged in user. Essentailly, network resources, .e.g. eMail, are not available unless a user is logged in.
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc722152(v=ws.11).aspx
The only way I found around that problem is to run a machine with a user with the correct permissions logged in all the time.
Are you sure you cannot lock the user out?
You could restrict access to the folder so that the user cannot access it and set up the scheduled task to use an account with access to the folder.
Although the users can't be locked out of the folder (perhaps the reports end up in there?), in Windows you can set the permissions on a per file basis. Make a new user that has the full rights (the same as your users). Schedule the VB6 app to run with that user. Remove the rights for the regular users to see the app. You do this by changing the permissions on just the VB6 app.
I have a script on my domain stored on the Active Directory server. every machine on the domain has a task that when fired, calls this script to run.
Running the task from the AD server works. Running the task from another machine doesn't work. However, running the command that is triggered from cmd manually on the remote computer works?
Could anyone shine some light on this. Basically I call it like this so that the trigger is set up like...
Action: PowerShell.exe
Arguments: -noprofile –ExecutionPolicy Bypass -File "\\<>NameOfADServer<>\C$\Tasks\script.ps1" "Argument 1" "Argument 2"
Running as SYSTEM is probably your issue - it wont have any access outside of the PC its running on.
When you run it manually youll have the access.
There's several problems here.
You're running the task as the local SYSTEM accounts. SYSTEM generally does not have access to any network resources.
You're using the administrative share (\\<servername>\C$) to share the script. Only users that have Administrator access to the server can access the administrative shares. Administrative shares are heavily restricted by design and you cannot modify the access on them.
My guess is that the script works when you run it manually is because it's using the current user's credentials for network access when you do that, but don't quote me on that.
The simplest solution with the least amount of change is to do this:
Create a group in Active Directory. Add the Computer accounts, or, preferably, groups with Computer accounts which you want to be able to run the script to this new group. If you really want any SYSTEM account on any computer in the domain to be able to run the script, you can add the "Domain Computers" group to the group.
Create a folder on the server. Put the script in the folder. Don't put anything in this folder you don't want your users to read. Assign the "Read" NTFS permission to the group created above to the folder.
Share the folder out. Grant the group you just created the "Full Control" share access. If you want, you can make it a hidden share by adding a dollar sign to the end of the name.
Update your scheduled tasks to use \\<servername>\<sharename>\script.ps1.
This is almost certainly not the best method to accomplish what you're actually trying to do, but this is probably the best way to use scheduled tasks running scripts on a network share with the SYSTEM account.
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OK - so I have searched (really!) and all other UAC articles I have found seem to center on enabling, disabling, detecting or hiding UAC. My issue is not one of those, so here goes:
My user used to have the standard dual-token setup where I was in the Administrators group and the UAC's Consent UI would just ask me if I wanted to proceed. Now, we have separate administrative-level accounts that we need to use, and I have to authenticate with this new user. The problem I am having is that previously, starting an app as Administrator just elevated my current user, where now if I use the credentials of the new administrative user, whatever I am running runs AS that new user.
As an example, previously elevating CMD and typing whoami into the command prompt used to return my normal/current user, where it now returns the new administrative user.
This has serious negative consequences - since this is a new user, and an Administrative-level one, if any files are created using this new user, my normal user cannot write to or delete them unless I manually adjust permissions and ownership. If I use my development environment under the new account (e.g. I need to debug a service or work with a driver) and rebuild something, I end up with a bunch of files that I cannot manipulate unless I am an administrator. Likewise if I add a file while running as this new account - my SCM tool will not be able to update that file later unless it also runs under this new administrative account.
Also, Since a profile is associated with this user, things run under a completely different environment (different %USERNAME%, %USERPROFILE%, %LOCALAPPDATA%, etc.)
Installing an application will also work incorrectly if it is installed just for the current user (e.g. the "Just Me" option), instead of for all users. Things that are licensed to/in my normal user account also fail to function if run under the new account, because things are running as that new user.
The ripple effects of this change are getting larger and larger the more I work with it. So...
[TLDR] Is there a way to get temporary elevation of the current user without that user having the normal dual-token setup you get from being in the Administrative group? Or are you stuck with the impersonation behavior?
First of all, I realize this is a messy situation, but it's not of my design, and I'm just trying to help, and for that I need your help.
App A is getting installed automatically via SMS installer under the Administrator account, not the PC owner's User account. App A has a registry key defined in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE hive.
After App A is installed, we want to edit the above mentioned registry key, to assign the User's C:\Users\USER_ID\Documents\ folder (I'm told we don't don't know who the user is and don't have access to USER_ID during step 1).
I know all about UAC, Application Manifest, and requestedExecutionLevel. However, I'm told we can't expect that all users will be in the Administrators group on their machine.
Solution must be backwards compatible with Windows XP as well.
I'm searching for options to get `C:\Users\USER_ID\Documents\' into the 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE' hive under the above listed conditions.
I found this thread that might be related to a similar situation, but I don't fully understand it yet (so I will give credit to anyone that explain it better):
Find out (read) logged in user in a cmd started as a different user
I also read something that rules out ClickOnce:
Clickonce + HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
After App A is installed with admin privileges you are trying to run an additional script as the local user who does not have admin privileges . In order for your secondary script to write to the local machine key it will have to be run with administrative privileges ..period. That said, you have basically two choices:
1) Use the RunAs command to run the script with elevated privileges and have the user type in a admin username and password to run the script with elevated privileges.
2) This is the better way imo - Since SMS is being leveraged as the delivery tool, use its capability to detect and use local client configuration settings to write the key at the time of installation.
So basically the SMS package would have to be setup to run only when the local user logs on one time so that SMS can grab the current user and write it to a file somewhere.. after that is completed SMS can run a separate package as the admin (user will get prompted) to do the software install looking for the file containing the user and then consequently updating the local machine key to the correct user my document path.
Enjoy!