Ida Pro Radare2 LD_PRELOAD - debugging

I'm doing an exploit type challenge. The challenge's binary to exploit uses a modified version of libc.so.
So before running linux server or radare2 / ida, the export environment variable LD_PRELOAD=/path2/libc_modified.so and then I put a breakpoint at the first assembly statement of the main. With ida I cannot launch binary however I can attach to process, but the breakpoints inserted after a read are bypassed so ida cannot stop and I can't debug binary.
With radare2 I can launch binary but breakpoint inserted at first instruction of main are bypassed.
I can debug executables that doesn't use libraries to be loaded with the LD_PRELOAD and my breakpoints are catched.
Does anyone know the cause of this behavior?

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Any way to set a breakpoint in GDB without stopping the target?

I'm using GDB (through an IDE) to debug an arm cortex microcontroller, and I've encountered an issue where the micro is halted briefly (for 10-20ms) whenever a breakpoint is set or cleared (not hit, but set, as in the code has not yet reached the breakpoint). This long of a pause can cause significant problems when driving an electric motor, for example.
The IDE has a debug console which shows that the GDB client is sending a SIGINT to the GDB server whenever I add or remove a breakpoint. I know that in the command-line client you have to use ctrl+c to interrupt the process to issue any command, but for modern microcontrollers (ARM cortex-m, etc.) it is not necessary to interrupt the processor to insert breakpoints, read memory, and in some cases to trace program execution. I am wondering if this is something that is being imposed by the GDB interface artificially.
Is there any way to create a new breakpoint without halting the target?
I have tried using "async" mode in GDB, but it informs me that I must halt the program to insert breakpoints. I have also verified that breakpoints can be set with the underlying debug server (OpenOCD) without halting, so in this case GDB is incorrect.
Any input is appreciated, and thanks in advance.

Debugging a custom OS with QEMU

I am trying to write a simple OS, I already wrote a bootloader but now I want to debug it, so I switched from using VirtualBox to QEMU because I saw it had better debugging.
The problem is that after I added the -s parameter to QEMU command and successfully connected via GDB, it says that the symbol table isn't loaded and that I should use the "file" command.
The only difference from what I did to what I saw people on the Internet do, is that they started GDB with gdb vmlinux, but I can't do that because I am not debugging a Linux kernel... so I figured that the issue is that I didn't start GDB with an executable, but using the "file" command on my OS image, and the compiled and linked .out file, tells me it's a "DOS/MBR boot sector", so I can't start GDB with either of them (I tried to do that anyways, but GDB failed).
Help would be appreciated.
EDIT: also, I did assemble the bootloader with the -g and --gstabs+ options.
gdb would like a file so that it can give you symbolic debugging information. For that you will need to give it a file in a format with debug info which corresponds to where your OS ends up in RAM. The "DOS/MBR boot sector" file is a disk image (the BIOS will load part of this into RAM for you, and it will then presumably finish loading code itself).
But gdb will also entirely happily let you do assembly-level debugging; you can just ignore the warning about not having a symbol table, and use the single step instruction, disassemble-from-pc and similar commands:
"disas $pc,+32" disassembles 32 bytes from the current PC
the display command prints after execution stops, so "disp /3i $pc" will print the next 3 instructions every time gdb gets control
"stepi" and "nexti" do single-instruction step/next ("step" and "next" are source-line stepping and require debug info)

Attach to specific process using IDA + WINDBG in kernel debugging

I want to debug a specific process on a remote system and the only way i can do that is to use the kernel debugging method.
It works pretty good with just WINDBG, but i think ida can give me the extra edge i need for a better reversing experience.
So far debugging with windbg was successfull but now when i am using the windbg plugin in ida:
what i am actually experiencing is that i cant get the extra analysis from ida, all i can do is attach only to the process it self (only one available to attach to). and in the Modules window all i can see is the ntkrpamp.exe, which i assume is the kernel process.
i can use all WINDBG regular commands like !process 0 0, etc.. and can debug normally but nothing shows in the IDA window
I have never debugged dynamically using IDA but i can see it is possible..
could it work aswell in a kernel debugging session?
Edit:
I just noticed it is possible to analyze a model if i set a breakpoint with the windbg plugin and when IDA hits that breakpoint, this module is added to the IDA Modules windows.
It would be a lot easier if i could just analyze it without pre-putting a breakpoint on the specific module and waiting for it to hit.

Is it possible to use gdb and qemu to debug linux user space programs and kernel space simultaneously?

So far, with gdb + qemu, I can step into/over linux kernel source code. Is it possible to debug the user space programs simultaneously? For example, single step a program from user space to kernel space so I can observe the changes of registers on the qemu monitor by issuing info registers?
Minimal step-by-setep setup
Mahouk is right, but here is a fully automated QEMU + Buildroot example which presuposes that you already know how to debug the kernel with QEMU + gdb and a more detailed exaplanation:
readelf -h myexecutable | grep Entry
Gives:
Entry point address: 0x4003a0
So inside GDB we need to do:
add-symbol-file myexecutable 0x4003a0
b main
And only then start the executable in QEMU:
myexecutable
A more reliable way to do that is to set myexecutable as the init process if you can do that.
add-symbol-file is also mentioned at: How to load multiple symbol files in gdb
Why would you ever want to do this instead of gdbserver?
I can only see one use case for this so far: debugging init: Debug init on Qemu using gdb
Otherwise, why not just use the following more reliable method, e.g. to step into a syscall:
start two remote GDBs:
one with qemu-system-* -s
the other gdbserver myexecutable as explained at: https://reverseengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/8829/cross-debugging-for-mips-elf-with-qemu-toolchain/16214#16214
step in gdbserver's GDB as close as possible to the system call, which often mean stepping into the libc
on the QEMU's GDB, do e.g. b sys_read for the read syscall
back on gdbserver, do continue
I propose this because:
using the QEMU GDB for userland can lead to random jumps as the kernel context switches to another process that uses the same virtual addresses
I was not able to load shared libraries properly without gdbserver: attempting sharedlibrary directly gives:
(gdb) sharedlibrary ../../staging/lib/libc.so.0
No loaded shared libraries match the pattern `../../staging/lib/libc.so.0'.
As a consequence, since most kernel interactions go through the stdib, you would need to do a lot of smart assembly stepping to find the kernel entry, which could be impractical.
Until, that is, someone writes a smarter GDB scripts that steps every instruction until a context switch happens or until source become available. I wonder if such scripts would't be too slow, as the naive approach has the overhead of communication to-from GDB for every instruction.
This might get you started: Tell gdb to skip standard files
Parsing Linux kernel data structures
To do userland process debug properly, that's what we would have to do eventually: thread-aware gdb for the Linux kernel
I achieve it by using the gdb command add-symbol-file to add userspace programs debugging information. But you must know these programs loading addresses. so to be precise, you have to launch the kernel debugging by connecting gdb to gdbserver as usual; and then, you can add those program debugging information. You can also use .gdbinit script though. Read this

.ASM file debugging tool

I am wondering which debugging tool I can use for an assembly program and how to use it.
I have written a simple bootloader in assembly. However, it is not quite working properly as I wished, even though I think the logic is correct. So, I am trying to use a debugger so that I can step through the bootloader, checking the register status and etc.
I tried GDB on Ubuntu, compiling my .asm to .elf and .o (Do I need to do it? If yes, what is the next step?) Also, I read that there is an internal debugger in Bochs simulator, but I can't quite find any document how to use it. I also have Visual Studio 2010, windbg, but I don't know how to use it for .asm file debugging.
If you have done this before, it would be an easy answer. Any help would be really appreciated.
Sincerely
If you want to debug bootloader code, you obviously need to run it in the same environment that the code itself is going to run in. As I'm sure you already know, bootloader code is executed in real mode once the BIOS finishes doing the POST. The bootloader is then loaded into memory at 7c00h and a jump to that address is executed.
Obviously, this kind of environment cannot be reliably emulated once you've got your computer running and a "real" operating system already loaded, since by that time your CPU is in protected mode (or long mode, if it's AMD64). Your only option at this point is to use QEMU or Bochs in order to emulate a real PC inside your operating system. I've used Bochs to debug some bootloader code I've written in the past and it worked quite well. Check the manual pages for more detailed instructions.

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