First of all, I want to appreciate the work for the SCIDvsPC Project. I know that the basic SCID one has been discontinued many years back and the developer have done a great job with expanding it and doing his share for the Chess Field. We have a Minor Project to do in this 6th semester of our college. We've decided to start a project on a Chess Next Move Analyzer that is based on variety of filters and implements Self Learning and Machine Learning.
I've been researching over the project idea for the last 2 months. Actually we need to import several games defined on some filters and read and analyze from the PGN file generated. For example, if the user chooses to get the next best move predicted according to the rating range of 2000-2500, our program should only export and analyze the PGN files that have both the opponents from this range only. I know the project can do all this but I'm confused over how to automate this. I mean I have to manually enter the moves and then click on 'Generate PGN' but how to make my program do this ie take input from the user (like first 3 moves), make the project run these moves (what I had to manually) and then generate the PGN file and keep it in a folder.
I've surfed the net about interacting with GUI elements in Windows (we have no problem in working with Linux either) and came to know about Microsoft UI Automation, Python, Java and C# softwares and something like COM. Do the software support COM or any one of these or have you already developed some functionality like this? Please can you guide me over this?
If asked to Generalize this what I want to do is to interact with GUI Elements, be it any application. Take Notepad as an example. Suppose I want to open a file on it, find and replace a particular word. Now, I know how to do this manually but when I have over thousands of file I need some kind of program to do this for me. Do some specific programs like SCID in my case has some feature (read bit about COM) pre-built to handle this? In which programming language domain does this come into? Is using Linux help me more?
Take Notepad as an example. Suppose I want to open a file on it, find
and replace a particular word. Now, I know how to do this manually but
when I have over thousands of file I need some kind of program to do
this for me. Do some specific programs like SCID in my case has some
feature (read bit about COM) pre-built to handle this?
Your situation sounds to be quite specific so I doubt whether you will be able to find a pre-existing program to do this for you. Meaning: you'll have to code it yourself.
In which programming language domain does this come into?
Well, this could probably be done in many, many different programming languages. A simple shell script would be able to achieve the Notepad example you gave.
Is using Linux help me more?
No, your goals seem to be pretty achievable by a simple shell script, whether you write it in a Windows, macOS or a Linux distro.
#SB87 gave you some useful hints, I'd like to expand his answers.
Sorry, I don't think you know what you're talking about. Reinforcement learning (better term than self-learning) and machine learning are not something suitable for a college project. It's at the PhD or research level, consider getting yourself into university before even thinking about anything like that.
UI automation is possible, but error prone and slow. If you want to do it, you'd write a console program. You mentioned something about user inputs, do you mean you want to apply machine learning on user mouse-keyboard inputs? It's not going to work. Machine learning for chess requires hundreds and thousands of training set.
I think you should downplay the project and focus on something you can achieve.
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I currently have 3 very similar, but slightly different mfc applications, which would normally be opened at the same time as part of their workflow and usage in a Windows environment. I would like to keep them as 3 separate applications, but somehow group them together, under a single UI container to provide more clarity to the user.
I've so far considered using named pipes to send data from two of the applications to the third, the latter one being solely responsible for drawing the GUI (possibly having 3 different tabs at the highest GUI level, one for each application). I got this idea from SergeWautier's answer from this post. After looking into the possibility of doing this, there seems to be a lot of work involved in achieving this.
Is there any other (possibly simpler) way of achieving something similar?
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I have in the mean time come across the TaskSpace tool, which is the closest thing to what I'm looking for. It's liteware and getting the full functionality (e.g. saving a particular tabbing configuration, which I am most interested in) requires purchasing a licence. What would be really cool would be to restrict the user from adding any other windows apart from the 3 applications and have better control over the titles of the tabs & top-level window. At this point, writing a similar tool to TaskSpace would be the ideal solution.
I've also been playing around with tidytabs. It's not exactly what I want, because it doesn't provide a 'wrapper GUI', but I thought it's worth mentioning here in case it helps someone else.
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I've found exactly what I was looking for in Window Tabifier, which is open source and I can modify to fit my needs in accordance with the CPOL Licence provided. Very nicely written code too.
So after reading these questions here, and here, I don't really have any other ideas of how I want to ask this question without explaining my situation.
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I am very new to proprietary platforms in general, coming from a background in Free/Open software.
Essentially, I have a program at work for our in-house proprietary motion control platform that uses a script with macros to communicate between the program on the UI side and the firmware on the motion controller side. The documentation and development of all the involved software is handled by a sister company, and the documentation is lacking/not complete, we do have support from them but they are stretched thin, have their own products, are 2,700 mi away, and can't be in-house on call for us, I do not have the source/am not allowed to have the source for either the main application, nor the firmware, and to REALLY kill it, our last, only real programmer left. We are alone with this script and a grip of new products that all depend on this script working well with in the software. The script is in need of a serious, regular bug check solution; for each configured machine that we use this motion controller system with.
So I am going to start debugging this script. That's what's happening here.
I have tried to write a mock-up bash implementation but the degrees of recursion, arrays pulled in from .ini files, system defined command set, and parsing of the script in the firmware; have made this bash debug implementation difficult and I'm not sure I can pull it off fully without hacking away important stuff.
I looked at other options like ANTLR, which is a bit over my head too, but might work.
Now, the controller communicates over some kind of static-IPv4 cross-over Ethernet setup (Telnet?) but has a RS-232 serial that will output formatted strings that are parsed from a 'sout' command. It's been my intent to mod the script to output as much as I can get from formatted strings with predefined system commands and variables, but I'm afraid that it wont give me the big picture.
The script itself defines global, system, and local variables and functions that, (because it's on the motion controller side with hardware limitations), can be nested 25 subroutines deep. The real gotchas seem to be where the recursive side of script enters and exits these functions as they are called from the UI and other functions. Nothing jumps out, but without in depth docs I can only see so much and pretty much have just been learning all this with another engineer who asks questions to the sister company.
Can anyone give me some advice as to how I should proceed in my endeavors? I know it's probably a lot to ask but I am kinda stuck in a rut and need more cognitive resources than my skill, and coffee allow for.
Thank you for your time.
I would like to build an application that uses Genetic Programming to figure out what exactly the user is asking. It's a programming application for non-programmers. Basically the user feeds the application a bunch of examples, and from the examples the application will derive the rules required to build a new program for the user's own use/distribution.
I've built prototypes using linear regression but it could only solve simple problems. This week I experimented genetic programming using pyevolve and it worked much more brilliantly than I expected! However, I suspect it being written in pure python made it require dozens of seconds to solve an example, whereas in my application I only have at most a couple of seconds time.
I've been trying to find a more performant library that was as easy to use as pyevolve but cannot find a suitable one. I tried openBeagle but after getting an example running, and hours of poring through the documentation later, I still cannot find a way to actually pick an individual out of the "Vivarium". I've seen people recommend GAUL but that is a GPL library and will limit how I can license my future application. I've tried to download lil-gp but the ftp download links are locked by a university's login screen.
Since the application will be a Mac OS X cocoa application, I did not consider Java, C# or Matlab GP libraries.
As a developer of Open BEAGLE I still recommend you to use that library if you seek a fast GP library. Retrieving your best individual would actually be done by running a second program that parses the XML file that is logged at the end of the evolution. Otherwise, you can access it through the Vivarium.getHallOfFame() method and then sort it and access the first element with the HallOfFame.operator[]. The Member you'll get is a struct of the individual with the generation it was recorded and in what deme it was.
That way you can get access to the best individual that ever lived in your evolution.
If you have specific questions on Open BEAGLE I recommend you to ask them directly to the developer list, we usually answer very quickly.
Although, if you wish to try a very different library in Python I recommend you DEAP that allows a lot more flexibility than Pyevolve. Some GP examples run much faster under PyPy than Python.
If you ask the key developer of the GAUL project for permission to use an alternative license agreement, then he* is quite likely to agree.
*"he" is me.
We wish to provide people to be able to add some logic to their accounts(say, given a few arguments, how to compute a particular result). So, essentially, this would be tantamount to writing simple business rules with support for conditionals and expressions. However, the challenge is to provide them a simple online editor where they can create the logic (preferably) by completely visual means (drag/drop Expr-tree nodes maybe -- kinda like Y! pipes).
Does anybody know of a scripting/macro/domain-specific language that lets people do this? The challenge is the visual editor, since we don't wish to invest in developing the UI to do the editing. The basic requirements would be:
1. Embedded into another language, or run securely (no reboot -n or <JUNK-DANGEROUS-COMMAND> >> ~/.bashrc)
2. Easily accessible to users without coding background (no need of any advanced features)
3. Preferably have a simple GUI based editor to create the logic programs accessible to non-developers (kinda like spreadsheets)
4. Some ability to generate compile-time warnings (invalid code) would be good (Type safety?)
5. Ability to embed some data before execution which is available to the interpreter (Eg., name, birthday, amount)
Anybody tried doing something like this and got any ideas? I looked at Lua, Io, Python, Ruby and a host of others, but the challenge essentially is that I don't think non-programmers will be able to understand the code all that much. Something that could be added via "meta-programming" to say a Ruby would be good as well, if an editor could be easily developed!
As a matter fact, Microsoft is developing Oslo, which is right up your alley.
Chris Sells has been writing a lot about it recently.
It is designed to be a way to author DSLs and also to visually author these models with a graphical tool called Quadrant. Sounds very very similar to what you are looking for.
Open source wise, Ruby I think can be close, as you can see if you look at _whytheluckystiff's Try Ruby or Hackety.
I don't think you'll find anything that isn't too generic, especially regarding the GUI editor. There's no generic tools as far as I know that will be able to automatically interface with your program and be able to query data from it and interpret the script into commands in your software -- if there is I'd like to have a copy. Not being flippant, but you will have to do some (probably alot) of work to get this working. It will probably result in you writing a custom DSL.
I would take a look at PowerShell. You could surface all the activities a user would like to script in a very readable way.
There is some talk of using PowerShell to create a DSL on the PowerShell team blog and Bruce Payette, the technical lead, talks about this in his book Windows PowerShell in Action from Manning.
At the other end of the scale is to write something simple as a HyperText Application (HTA) -- assuming Windows of course -- along the lines of my Clive tool. The article on the blog doesn't mention the HTA version, but essentially I could enter VBScript-ish code into one textarea and interpret it on the spot, output going into another text area on the form.
With HTAs giving you all the form control of HTML, plus the DOM, you could come up with something interesting fairly quickly.
I write many scripts at home and on the job. Most of the time the scripts get used only a few times to accomplish their chosen task and then are never used again. However, sometimes I write a script to do something more complicated, something that requires user input. It is at this point that I usually agonize over whether to implement a GUI or stick with a y/n, press 1-10, etc. command-line interface. This type of interface can become tedious to use and difficult to maintain.
I know some things lend themselves to a GUI more than others, such as selecting things in a giant list. However, the time it takes to switch a command-line application to use a GUI is prohibitive. For me, it takes a good amount of time to add a GUI with even the most simple framework I can find.
I am curious if any developers have a method of determining at what point their script has grown enough to need a GUI. Or am I going about this the wrong way, should I always be writing my scripts assuming I might later add a GUI?
This doesn't answer your question but FWIW an intermediate step, between UI and command-line, is to have a configuration file instead of a UI:
Edit the configuration file
Run the program
A configuration file format can, if necessary, be complicated and well-commented.
As with many questions of this type, the answer is that it depends.
If your program/script does just one single thing by receiving a number of inputs from the user, it is better to stick with the non-GUI mode.
If the application is doing more than one thing and if you think that the user will use the application to do a lot of stuff, you may consider using a GUI.
Are you planning to distribute this program to others? Then it is better to provide a GUI.
If the users are non-technical, a GUI is a must!
Thats it.
When you want to hand your stuff over to someone else in a discoverable way. Command-line scripts are awesome because they are simple and elegant, but they are not very discoverable. That is, if you were to hand your scripts over to someone else with no documentation, would they be able to figure out what they are and how to use them? If your tasks are so simple that myscript /? will explain what you need to do fully, then you don't need a GUI.
If on the other hand, you are handing your scripts over to someone who isn't so technical, or needs some more visual guidance about the task to be done, than by all means, a GUI is a good way to go. You might even want to keep your scripts as they are and just create a separate GUI that runs them for maximum flexibility.
I think this decission also depends on the audience who will be using your script: If it is people who are comfortable working with the command line, then there is not pressing need to add a GUI as long as your script has a good /help which explains all the parameters it accepts. But if you want the "average user" to be able to use your program, I'd rather add a GUI because otherwise your program might not be intuitive enough for that user group.
If you only need some "Dialogs" to improve your scripts, you can use KDE Kdialog or Gnome Zenity.
I can't count the number of times I've written what I thought would be a 'one-off' and it became more useful than I thought and ended up writing a GUI for it, or I've need to come back to use a program months later. The advantage of the GUI is it makes it easier to remember what would otherwise likely be command line arguments. I.e. for flags and options you can simply use check boxes, combo boxes, radio buttons, and file selectors filenames. I use Borland C++ RAD so it is quite quick and easy to throw together a simple (or even not so simple) dialog box. I now often start with creating the GUI.
If you use Linux, try Zenity. It's an easy to use tool to make a GUI for command-line programs.