I'm making this report about the migration of oracle forms and reports 6i to another technology (Oracle forms & report 12c Or Oracle APEX), and i'm making this comparative table of apex and oracles forms 12c of these points:
Prerequisites
Cost
Productivity
ease of use
Speed
Maintenance
Deployment
Security
Scalability
Support
Community
and i would like the opinion of someone who has worked with both or at least with one of them and give me hand with this. Any help would be appreciated.
Answered here on SO. & here by Tom Kyte and here on OTN and here.
Also, APEX has a migration tool when you're ready to make the jump.
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We are planning a migration of an Oracle Forms and report 6i application to 12c, and at the same time we will upgrade to the latest version of Oracle (from 10g to 12c).
I would like to know the steps that we can follow, or from where to start?
Is there anything that we must consider before doing this? Any problems that we might encounter?
Any information whatsoever would be helpful !
I just recently did this exact thing.
You'll want to use the Forms migration assistant to do the heavy lifting. Copy your FMB files somewhere and run the assistant against them. Then open the FMB's in 12c and convert the 2 tier commands to 3 tier (like HOST to CLIENT_HOST (using webutil), etc) and you also may want to look for other enhancements that can be made using 12c specific code over 6i (file operation handling, reports, external link handling, etc)
I'm planning to do an out-of-place upgrade for OBIEE from 10g on windows server 2003 to 11.1.1.9 on windows server 2012.
I find a document in the Oracle website below, which specify how to do an upgrade of OBIEE. However, may I know if it is applicable for an in-place update only? Could anyone please kindly recommend some useful references which specifies the steps required to perform an out-of-place upgrade as mentioned above?
Upgrade Guide for Oracle Business Intelligence 11g Release 1 (11.1.1.9.0) E16452-09
This tells you all you need: https://docs.oracle.com/middleware/11119/core/FUGBI/bi_plan.htm#FUGBI436
There's no such thing as an "in place" upgrade from 10g to 11g. The Upgrade Assistant helps with the RPD and WebCat, but you still need to do the manual migration. It's well documented and several years later a well-trodden path so you'll find plenty of blog posts etc discussing any issues you may encounter.
I will need to migrate Forms an Reports from 10g to 11g. I need to know did anyone had done something similar and what problems I may discover in the process? Maybe some of you have useful links or information to share? Most of documentation about migrating 6i to 11g. So I having hard time discovering what I need.
There are a few differences, it depends on what you use. If you use some deprecated stuff from 10g it can be deleted now. But I have migrated over 4000 forms and didn't found much strange things. However you might have some strange behavior if you also go from oracle DB 10 to oracle DB 11. I would say at this moment just migrate run all your forms and change some things that don't work, it won't be too much you have to change.
I faced these problems when migrating Oracle 10g to 11g, main problems is from Oracle 6i, becouse it was still used in migration and all forms have to work in 6i, 10g and 11g:
RUN_PRODUCT was eliminated from Oracle 11g. This procedure was in background in Oracle 10g.
CHART type was eliminated in Oracle 11g. This field type was in background in Oracle 10g.
Some of 10g PLL's freezes Forms Builder 11g. I readed that in 11.1.0.7 is a bug fix for this problem, but I use 11.1.2 and still get same problem, so I created work-around for this problem.
I have Oracle Forms Interactive Workbook, and it looks like a good tutorial, but I can't setup environment to do exercises (book uses Oracle Developer 6.0 & Oracle8).
I installed Oracle Forms 6i and Oracle Express database 10g, but Forms 6i crashes, when I try to connect from it to 10g.
can I get Oracle 8 somewhere?
anybody knows how to reconcile Forms 6i with 10g?
UPDATE: modern alternatives, like ApEx aren't a solution, because 6th version is used among other developers.
UPDATE2: sorry for previous title of the question, it was misleading
Forms 6i works perfectly fine with 10g. I would recommend against hunting down 8i and using that. The database is not your problem.
That said, it's hard to know how to help without more specific information. Are you trying to use the forms server? Does Forms builder crash, or is it Forms Runtime? Any messages? What components did you install - did you do a custom install or a typical?
You can use oracle forms 6i / 6 with any oracle database. I have used it with oracle 8,9i, 10g. Install any avalialbe database and start working. Good Luck.
The modern equivalent is Oracle Application Express (aka APEX, formerly HTML DB). It normally comes bundled with Oracle Database 11g. It is a thin web-based client rather than a client application a la Forms.
More information: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/apex/overview/index.html
I used some reporting platforms ( SAP Business Objects and some other third party applications). I have pl-sql experience but I am new to Oracle BI.
At this point, I have some questions which confuses my mind.
First one is there are lots of terminology in Oracle BI but I do not know which products should I know, or in which order I can learn and experience these platforms.
For example you can create dashboards, analysis by Oracle BI. Terms/products like Essbase, Hyperion, Warehouse Builder, ODI etc.
My second question is :
I want to install Oracle 11g and Oracle BI 11 in the same pc. But I hearded and read on some forums that they are not working on the same computer. But I want to setup BI tool to my personal computer for practicing in my home. How can I install these two products in my pc? ( My pc is 64 bit)
Thanks&Regards
Just dot it ;-)
http://gerardnico.com/wiki/dat/obiee/installation_11.1
You can have a database and obiee on the same machine.
Cheers
Nico
You need to install Oracle DB 11g followed by the latest OBIEE 11g installation. (note that you need to install RCU before you proceed with the OBIEE 11g install). You can get both of them from otn.oracle.com. The Install documentation can guide you in the entire setup; and hopefully there should be no surprises.
After that, install the Sample App and follow the instructions to create new analysis, dashboards etc. After this, am sure you will be upto speed with the terminologies and the workflows.
Check this post on wiki - should give you basic understanding on OBIEE stack
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Business_Intelligence_Suite_Enterprise_Edition
you mentioned Warehouse Builder - Oracle steering away from it, so ODI will be a choice of ETL tool.
You have a long journey ahead of you for OBIEE so, sit back, relax and enjoy the ride. You want to start with the BI Foundation which includes BI Server and Answers, before moving on to products like Essbase, Hyperion, Warehouse Builder, ODI etc.
I would start by
Doing a simple install of OBIEE. I prefer Linux but you can use Windows as well. 8GB would be nice. Each of the following has a graphical install wizard which guides you through the choices.
a. Install the DB
b. Run the RCU
c. Install OBIEE
d. Install BI Admin tool for creating or modifying the repository
Do some tutorials provided by Oracle. I would start with the following and in this order.
a. Creating a Repository Using the Oracle BI 11g Administration Tool - MANDATORY if you are a serious OBIEE professional
b. Creating Analyses and Building Dashboards - For Adhoc Analysis - Important
c. Getting Started with Oracle BI Publisher - OPTIONAL - If you care for published or printed reports or for some quick and dirty reporting, without having to create a model in the repository.
You want to avoid these common mistakes if you are installing on Windows.
You can install Oracle 11g ad Oracle BI in the same machine without any issue.
As far as the second question is concerned, you can create your reports with the knowledge of only Oracle BI , pl/sql and 11g. Pl/Sql is required to writhe pre and post procesors for the report. ESS will only be required to schedule the report and as such you won't require it in the learning phase. You can learn it later