we whitelist client IPs on our server. We have a new client and the client is telling us they use AWS servers and they said "you'll need to whitelist their (AWS) IPs list from the us-east-1 region". They provided us a spreadsheet of these IPs (164 ips).
Does this seem reasonable that a customer would use all IPs from a AWS region ?
Thanks
It doesn't make sense that they would use ALL the IPs. It does make sense that they don't know the IP they will be using ahead of time, and can only tell you that it will be from that list of IPs. If that's a problem then you could ask your customer to create a NAT Gateway with a static IP address (AWS Elastic IP), which you could then whitelist. However that will require added monthly costs, and added complication to your user.
A NAT gateway is NOT REALLY MANDATORY for meeting this requirement.
There are 2 possibilities:
Your Client will be accessing your service from a single server which has a public static IP (Elastic IP)
Your Client will be accessing your service from a single server/multiple servers that don't have a public static IP
In first case, you can simply white-list the clients elastic IP.
In second case, all their traffic will be routed via an AWS internet gateway which definitely will have an IP address associated to it. You will just need to white list that internet gateway IP instead of white-listing all the IPs
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My API accesses a service that wants to know what the possible IP address range is for the API so they can whitelist us. How do I know what IP addresses AWS may assign when the load balancer creates new instances?
Direct answer: AWS publishes its IP address ranges in a publicly accessible JSON file. IP ranges are associated with a region and a service, and as you can imagine, there are a lot of them. At the current moment there are 71 CIDR blocks associated with EC2 in us-west-2, for example. That's as specific as you can get, though. So you'd have to supply your partner with all of the EC2 IP address ranges for your region in order to guarantee that they would permit any IP address assigned to an instance your autoscale group might start up. Oh, and they do change periodically, so your partner would have to maintain that list.
Suggestion: Sounds like you have your EC2 instances in public subnets and are assigning public IPs to them. Instead, you can create your EC2 instances in private subnets and use a NAT Gateway to allow them to access the Internet. If you do this, the source IP for outbound traffic will the be the elastic IP address you assign to the NAT gateway. So you can give your partner a definite IP address they can permit to access their service.
Using a private subnet for your EC2 instances also reduces your attack surface area, since the EC2 instances won't have individual public IP addresses.
Why doesn't AWS allocate elastic IP's to all the servers being spawned? They allocate public IP by default to all the servers, which gets lost after a reboot of EC2 instances.
What's the logic behind not allowing elastic IPs automatically?
TL;DR Because Elastic IP (EIP) addresses are not needed for all/most use cases.
There is a limited supply of routable IP addresses. If every server on a public subnet received one, those IP addresses would remain allocated even when the servers were off. If the server was terminated it would be unclear if the use of that IP was concluded or is still necessary for other use. Which brings up the real reason for Elastic IP's.
An Elastic IP address is a static IPv4 address designed for dynamic cloud computing. An Elastic IP address is associated with your AWS account. With an Elastic IP address, you can mask the failure of an instance or software by rapidly remapping the address to another instance in your account. [1]
The take away from this is if you're not using EIP's for dynamic cloud computing you're probably using them incorrectly. This is a good example of a correct use case.
If you require a persistent public IP address that can be associated to and from instances as you require, use an Elastic IP address instead. For example, if you use dynamic DNS to map an existing DNS name to a new instance's public IP address, it might take up to 24 hours for the IP address to propagate through the Internet. As a result, new instances might not receive traffic while terminated instances continue to receive requests.[2]
How can I make ec2 instance communicate with rds instance on aws by internal ip address or dns?
I only see public dns like xxx.cehmrvc73g1g.eu-west-1.rds.amazonaws.com:3306
Will internal ipaddress will be faster than public dns?
Thanks
A note for posterity, ensure that you enable DNS on the VPC Peering link!
Enabling DNS Resolution Support for a VPC Peering Connection
To enable a VPC to resolve public IPv4 DNS hostnames to private IPv4
addresses when queried from instances in the peer VPC, you must modify
the peering connection.
Both VPCs must be enabled for DNS hostnames and DNS resolution.
To enable DNS resolution support for the peering connection
Open the Amazon VPC console at https://console.aws.amazon.com/vpc/.
In the navigation pane, choose Peering Connections.
Select the VPC peering connection, and choose Actions, Edit DNS
Settings.
To ensure that queries from the peer VPC resolve to private IP
addresses in your local VPC, choose the option to enable DNS
resolution for queries from the peer VPC.
If the peer VPC is in the same AWS account, you can choose the option
to enable DNS resolution for queries from the local VPC. This ensures
that queries from the local VPC resolve to private IP addresses in the
peer VPC. This option is not available if the peer VPC is in a
different AWS account.
Choose Save.
If the peer VPC is in a different AWS account, the owner of the peer
VPC must sign into the VPC console, perform steps 2 through 4, and
choose Save.
You can use the "Endpoint" DNS name. It will resolve to the internal IP when used within the VPC and resolves to a public ip when used outside of your AWS network. You should never use the actual IP address because the way the RDS works it could possibly change in the future.
If you ping it from your EC2 (on the same VPC) server you can verify this.
It is amazing to see the amount of down votes I've got given that my answer is the only correct answer, here is 2 other sources:
https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=70112
You can use the "Endpoint" DNS name. It will resolve to the internal IP when used within EC2.
https://serverfault.com/questions/601548/cant-find-the-private-ip-address-for-my-amazon-rds-instance2
The DNS endpoint provided in the AWS console will resolve to the internal IPs from within Amazon's network.
Check out the AWS EC2 docs: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/using-instance-addressing.html#concepts-private-addresses.
It doesn't appear that this necessarily applies to RDS, however.
When resolving your RDS instance from within the same VPC the internal IP is returned by the Amazon DNS service.
If the RDS instance is externally accessible you will see the external IP from outside the VPC. However, if the EC2 instance NOT available publiclly the internal IP address is returned to external and internal lookups.
Will internal ip address will be faster than the external address supplied by public dns?
Most likely as the packets will need to be routed when using the external addresses, increasing latency.
It also requires that your EC2 instances have a public IP or NAT gateway along with appropriate security groups and routes, increasing cost, increasing complexity and reducing security.
its pretty easy, telnet your RDS endpoint using command prompt on windows or through unix terminal
for example: telnet "you RDS endpoint" "Port"
trying to connect "You get your RDS internal IP here"
Is there any way to make new instances added to an autoscaling group associate with an elastic IP? I have a use case where the instances in my autoscale group need to be whitelisted on remote servers, so they need to have predictable IPs.
I realize there are ways to do this programmatically using the API, but I'm wondering if there's any other way. It seems like CloudFormation may be able to do this.
You can associate an Elastic IP to ASG instances using manual or scripted API calls just as you would any other instance -- however, there is no automated way to do this. ASG instances are designed to be ephemeral/disposable, and Elastic IP association goes against this philosophy.
To solve your problem re: whitelisting, you have a few options:
If the system that requires predictable source IPs is on EC2 and under your control, you can disable IP restrictions and use EC2 security groups to secure traffic instead
If the system is not under your control, you can set up a proxy server with an Elastic IP and have your ASG instances use the proxy for outbound traffic
You can use http://aws.amazon.com/vpc/ to gain complete control over instance addressing, including network egress IPs -- though this can be time consuming
There are 3 approaches I could find to doing this. Cloud Formation will just automate it but you need to understand what's going on first.
1.-As #gabrtv mentioned use VPC, this lends itself to two options.
1.1-Within a VPC use a NAT Gateway to route all traffic in and out of the Gateway. The Gateway will have an Elastic IP and internet traffic then whitelist the NAT Gateway on your server side. Look for NAT gateway on AWS documentation.
1.2-Create a Virtual Private Gateway/VPN connection to your backend servers in your datacenter and route traffic through that.
1.2.a-Create your instances within a DEDICATED private subnet.
1.2.b-Whitelist the entire subnet on your side, any request from that subnet will be allowed in.
1.2.c Make sure your routes in the Subnet are correct.
(I'm skipping 2 on purpose since that is 1.2)
3.-The LAZY way:
Utilize AWS Opsworks to do two things:
1st: Allocate a RESOURCE Pool of Elastic IPs.
2nd: Start LOAD instances on demand and AUTO assign them one elastic ip from the Pool.
For the second part you will need to have the 24/7 instances be your minimum and the Load instances be your MAX. AWS Opsworks now allows Cloud Watch alarms to trigger instance startup so it is very similar to ASG.
The only disadvantage of Opsworks is that instances aren't terminated but stopped instead when the load goes down and that you must "create" instances beforehand. Also you depend on Chef solo to initiate your instances but is the only way to get auto assigning EIPs to your newly created instances that I could find.
Cheers!
I have an EC2 instance, which is able to connect to my RDS instance, yet its elastic IP does not appear in the DB security group of whitelisted IP's.
How might this be?
I ask because I have created a new instance, which I also want to whitelist and just entering its elastic IP does not seem like the way to do things since none of the other servers have their elastic IP listed.
Thanks in advance,
There might be two causes here:
Traffic Sources
Security Group Rules do not necessarily specify IP addresses as traffic sources alone, rather regularly will refer to other security groups as well:
The source can be an individual IP address (203.0.113.1), a range of
addresses (e.g., 203.0.113.0/24), or an EC2 security group. The
security group can be another group in your AWS account, a group in
another AWS account, or the security group itself.
By specifying a security group as the source, you allow incoming
traffic from all instances that belong to the source security group.
[...] You might specify another security group in your account if you're creating a
three-tier web service (see Creating a Three-Tier Web Service).
[emphasis mine]
Consequently, the DB security group of your Amazon RDS instance might refer to the EC2 security group used for your Amazon EC2 instance, implying respective access rights already. See my answer to AWS - Configuring access to EC2 instance from Beanstalk App for more details regarding this concept/approach.
Public vs. Private IP Addresses
You might see the effect of a little known, but nonetheless important and quite helpful feature of the AWS DNS infrastructure, see section Public and Private Addresses on page Using Instance IP Addresses:
Amazon EC2 also provides an internal DNS name and a public DNS name
that map to the private and public IP addresses respectively. The
internal DNS name can only be resolved within Amazon EC2. The public
DNS name resolves to the public IP address outside the Amazon EC2
network and the private IP address within the Amazon EC2 network. [emphasis mine]
That is, it's resolving the public DNS (e.g. ec2-xxx-xxx-xxx-xxx.compute-1.amazonaws.com) to the private IP address when you are using it inside the Amazon EC2 network, and to the public or elastic IP address when using it outside the Amazon EC2 network.
Accordingly, the various AWS products are usually wired up between each other by means of their private IP Addresses rather than external ones for a variety of reasons, most importantly network speed and cost (see my answer to AWS EC2 Elastic IPs bandwidth usage and charges for details).
Consequently, the DB security group of your Amazon RDS instance might refer to the private IP address of your Amazon EC2 instance, implying respective access rights accordingly.