I'm just looking for advice, I can do most of my own research, but I'm not sure where to start. Here's the situation:
I want to be able to deploy 3 vms that have 2 nic's a piece. 1 nic will have a standard IP that AWS provides. The second nic will have a pre-configured internal static IP. Let's say, 192.168.0.100, 101, and 102. That way each vm can talk to each other automatically without needing to know what the external IP is. The purpose of this is so that I can have a small cluster already configured and I won't have to do a lot of work every time I deploy the cluster.
I want this to be repeatable. Let's say I want this for a classroom. Each student has the identical set of clustered VMs. All they need to do is power them on and start working.
So, I think I can do this with Terreform. I don't know if AWS has it's own tooling that can do this also. If it has, I haven't been able to find it yet.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
In general, every VM gets a private IP, if the VM is public you can assign a public IP which makes the VM accessible from external and also provides internet access, this is be done by source/destination NAT.
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/vpc/latest/userguide/VPC_Internet_Gateway.html
As long as they are part of you VPC CIDR and available you can specify the IP addresses on instance launch. This can be done via AWS Console, API, CLI, CloudFormation and also with Terraform. The AWS native tools for doing it at scale / repeatable is CloudFormation or maybe also a script that runs AWS CLI commands would work.
https://awscli.amazonaws.com/v2/documentation/api/latest/reference/opsworks/create-instance.html
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSCloudFormation/latest/UserGuide/aws-properties-ec2-network-interface-privateipspec.html
I am planning to migrate from Ec2 classic to EC2 VPC. My application reads messages from SQS, download assets from S3 and perform actions mentioned in the SQS messages and then updates RDS. I have following queries
Is it beneficial for me to migrate to Amazon VPC from Classic
I create my EC2 machines using ruby scripts, and deploy code on them using capistrano. In classic mode I used the IP address to deploy code using capistrano. But in VPC there is a concept of private IP address and you cannot access a machine inside a subnet.So my question is:
How should I deploy code on the EC2 instances or rather how should I connect to them?
Thank You.
This questions is pretty broad but I'll take stab at it:
Is it beneficial for me to migrate to Amazon VPC from Classic
It's beneficial if you care about security of your data in transit and at rest. In a VPC none of your traffic is exposed to the outside and you can chose which components you want to expose in case you want to receive traffic/data from the outside. i.e Your ELB or ELBs.
I create my EC2 machines using ruby scripts, and deploy code on them using capistrano. In classic mode I used the IP address to deploy
code using capistrano. But in VPC there is a concept of private IP
address and you cannot access a machine inside a subnet. So my question
is: How should I deploy code on the EC2 instances or rather how should
I connect to them?
You can actually assign a public IP to your EC2 machines in a VPC if you choose to. You can use that IP to deploy your code from the outside.
You can read about it here: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonVPC/latest/UserGuide/vpc-ip-addressing.html
If you want more security you can always deploy from a machine in your VPC (that has SSH access to the outside). You can ssh to that machine and then run cap deploy from there.
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Currently moving to Amazon EC2 from another VPS provider. We have your typical web server / database server needs. Web servers in front of our database servers. Database servers are not directly accessible from the Internet.
I am wondering if there is any reason to put these servers into an AWS Virtual Private Cloud (VPC) instead of just creating the instances and using security groups to firewall them off.
We are not doing anything fancy just a typical web app.
Any reason to use a VPC or not using a VPC?
Thanks.
NOTE: New accounts in AWS launch with a "default VPC" enabled immediately, and make "EC2-Classic" unavailable. As such, this question and answer makes less sense now than they did in August 2012. I'm leaving the answer as-is because it helps frame differences between "EC2-Classic" and the VPC product line. Please see Amazon's FAQ for more details.
Yes. If you're security conscious, a heavy CloudFormation user, or want complete control over autoscaling (as opposed to Beanstalk, which abstracts certain facets of it but still gives you complete access to the scaling parameters), use a VPC. This blog post does a great job summarizing both the pros and cons. Some highlights from the blog post (written by kiip.me):
What’s Wrong with EC2?
All nodes are internet addressable. This doesn’t make much sense for nodes which have no reason to exist on the global internet. For example: a database node should not have any public internet hostname/IP.
All nodes are on a shared network, and are addressable to each other. That means an EC2 node launched by a user “Bob” can access any of EC2 nodes launched by a user “Fred.” Note that by default, the security groups disallow this, but its quite easy to undo this protection, especially when using custom security groups.
No public vs private interface. Even if you wanted to disable all traffic on the public hostname, you can’t. At the network interface level each EC2 instance only has one network interface. Public hostnames and Elastic IPs are routed onto the “private” network.
What's Great About the VPC
First and foremost, VPC provides an incredible amount of security compared to EC2. Nodes launched within a VPC aren’t addressable via the global internet, by EC2, or by any other VPC. This doesn’t mean you can forget about security, but it provides a much saner starting point versus EC2. Additionally, it makes firewall rules much easier, since private nodes can simply say “allow any traffic from our private network.” Our time from launching a node to having a fully running web server has gone from 20 minutes down to around 5 minutes, solely due to the time saved in avoiding propagating firewall changes around.
DHCP option sets let you specify the domain name, DNS servers, NTP servers, etc. that new nodes will use when they’re launched within the VPC. This makes implementing custom DNS much easier. In EC2 you have to spin up a new node, modify DNS configuration, then restart networking services in order to gain the same effect. We run our own DNS server at Kiip for internal node resolution, and DHCP option sets make that painless (it just makes much more sense to type east-web-001 into your browser instead of 10.101.84.22).
And finally, VPC simply provides a much more realistic server environment. While VPC is a unique product to AWS and appears to “lock you in” to AWS, the model that VPC takes is more akin to if you decided to start running your own dedicated hardware. Having this knowledge beforehand and building up the real world experience surrounding it will be invaluable in case you need to move to your own hardware.
The post also lists some difficulties with the VPC, all of which more or less relate to routing: Getting an internet gateway or NAT instance out of the VPC, communicating between VPCs, setting up a VPN to your datacenter. These can be quite frustrating at times, and the learning curve isn't trivial. All the same, the security advantages alone are probably worth the move, and Amazon support (if you're willing to pay for it) is extremely helpful when it comes to VPC configuration.
Currently VPC has some useful advantages over EC2, such as:
multiple NICs per instance
multiple IP's per NIC
'deny'-rules in security-groups
DHCP options
predictable internal IP ranges
moving NICs and internal IPs between instances
VPN
Presumably Amazon will upgrade EC2 with some of those features as well, but currently they're VPC-only.
VPCs are useful if your app needs to access servers outside of EC2, e.g. if you have a common service that's hosted in your own physical data center and not accessible via the internet. If you're going to put all of your web and DB servers on EC2, there's no reason to use VPC.
Right now VPC is the only way to have internal load balancers
If you choose RDS to provide your database services, you can configure DB Security Groups to allow database connections from a given EC2 Security Groups, then even if you have dynamic IP addresses in your EC2 cluster, the RDS will automatically create the firewall rules to allow connections only from your instances, reducing the benefit of a VPS in this case.
VPS in the other hand is great when your EC2 instances have to access your local network, then you can establish a VPN connection between your VPS and your local network, controlling the IP range, sub networks, routes and outgoing firewall rules, which I think is not what you are looking for.
I would also highly recommend trying the Elastic Beanstalk, which will provide a console that makes easy to setup your EC2 cluster for PHP, Java and .Net applications, enabling Auto Scaling, Elastic Load Balancer and Automatic Application Versioning, allowing easy rollback from bad deployments.
You have raised a good concern here.
I would like to focus on the viability in terms of cost...
What about the cost factor?
I think You will be paying for that server per hour. Even if you pick $20-$50 dollars a month instance it will be something you will pay the rest of your server life. The VPN server is something you can easily set on old hardware very cheap and even free for open source solution.
Adding VPN to existing AWS servers park make sense, setting a solo VPN server on AWS doesn't. I don't think it is the best cost-effective option but that just my opinion.
Thanks,
Alisa
Is there any way to make new instances added to an autoscaling group associate with an elastic IP? I have a use case where the instances in my autoscale group need to be whitelisted on remote servers, so they need to have predictable IPs.
I realize there are ways to do this programmatically using the API, but I'm wondering if there's any other way. It seems like CloudFormation may be able to do this.
You can associate an Elastic IP to ASG instances using manual or scripted API calls just as you would any other instance -- however, there is no automated way to do this. ASG instances are designed to be ephemeral/disposable, and Elastic IP association goes against this philosophy.
To solve your problem re: whitelisting, you have a few options:
If the system that requires predictable source IPs is on EC2 and under your control, you can disable IP restrictions and use EC2 security groups to secure traffic instead
If the system is not under your control, you can set up a proxy server with an Elastic IP and have your ASG instances use the proxy for outbound traffic
You can use http://aws.amazon.com/vpc/ to gain complete control over instance addressing, including network egress IPs -- though this can be time consuming
There are 3 approaches I could find to doing this. Cloud Formation will just automate it but you need to understand what's going on first.
1.-As #gabrtv mentioned use VPC, this lends itself to two options.
1.1-Within a VPC use a NAT Gateway to route all traffic in and out of the Gateway. The Gateway will have an Elastic IP and internet traffic then whitelist the NAT Gateway on your server side. Look for NAT gateway on AWS documentation.
1.2-Create a Virtual Private Gateway/VPN connection to your backend servers in your datacenter and route traffic through that.
1.2.a-Create your instances within a DEDICATED private subnet.
1.2.b-Whitelist the entire subnet on your side, any request from that subnet will be allowed in.
1.2.c Make sure your routes in the Subnet are correct.
(I'm skipping 2 on purpose since that is 1.2)
3.-The LAZY way:
Utilize AWS Opsworks to do two things:
1st: Allocate a RESOURCE Pool of Elastic IPs.
2nd: Start LOAD instances on demand and AUTO assign them one elastic ip from the Pool.
For the second part you will need to have the 24/7 instances be your minimum and the Load instances be your MAX. AWS Opsworks now allows Cloud Watch alarms to trigger instance startup so it is very similar to ASG.
The only disadvantage of Opsworks is that instances aren't terminated but stopped instead when the load goes down and that you must "create" instances beforehand. Also you depend on Chef solo to initiate your instances but is the only way to get auto assigning EIPs to your newly created instances that I could find.
Cheers!
I sell a product that runs on Amazon EC2. A company now wants to purchase and install it within their perimeter... This also implies the use of a VPN connection to the EC2 datacenter.
I want to test my product using Amazon VPN (VPC) before handing over the code. Must I change my code to make it work across VPC? If I run on Windows, then wants the quickest and easiest desktop VPN client avaialable that will allow me to connect across VPN to the Amazon datacenter?
Make sure you setup NAT servers and set your routes in the AWS console. Your client can have some security infrastructure for extending their data center to the cloud - firewall rules at the VPC level etc. Disable firewall rules on the server you deploy to since your VPC already takes care of this. As root execute the following command. service iptables stop (you probably already know this I am guessing)
Is it important for your app to run across VPCs?
Depending on how large the company you are selling to is, their security team may give them the run around to have VPC to VPC communication. Is it important for your software to span across VPCs?